Doug C Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Right. So, really then, the only people who should be posting in this thread are the ones who truly believe the Grateful Dead is a great band.Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Thanks for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm confused. The thread title, to me, means musical stuff that is bunk but that you believe.....(not YOU, per se, but the reader of the thread title). A Thread for Musical Blasphemy you Truly Believe Full Definition of BLASPHEMY 1a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity2: irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable Don't like the Grateful Dead. As much as I try (and I've really tried), the seem to be more about the drug culture than they do music. The Grateful Dead are revered here. I don't like them. I think any music I need to be tripping on to enjoy can do without my appreciation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I'm gonna take a guess that you probably wouldn't like the Grateful Dead even if you were tripping. As I was trying to point above, the statement that I think people are responding to is not whether you like them or not, but rather your statement that they are more about drug culture than music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yes, that's it. I am not a fan of the Dead, though I did see them once in 1978 when I was 14. I am a fan of their songs, though, mainly when performed by others. Clearly, serious Dead fans are about the music, not drugs. The amount of different shows that they listen to, the encyclopedic knowledge of different eras, etc. means that hey are music fans. If they had to be tripping when listening to all of those Dead shows, they'd have been casualties long ago. It's obvious that it's about the music. Much respect to them. I cannot imagine being into anything to that degree. To put it all down to drugs is silly. Say, to those Dead fans, did I likely see a classic, good, quality, etc. show in 1978? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 The best Dead show I saw, I was stoned to the bejesus. Second best, I was sober as a judge. Worst, I was tripping my brains out. So there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I love how a bunch of us Deadheads came in and derailed this thread. Think of the thread as a parking lot now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Anybody got a hackey sack? Oh, and the Kings of Leon suck tremendous. That they are hugely popular in Europe pretty much negates the argument that Europeans have better taste than Americans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 A number of people love telling others that they love Television's Marquee Moon more than they actually like Television's Marquee Moon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Rising Red Lung and Shake It Off are 2 of Wilco's better songs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 A number of people love telling others that they love Television's Marquee Moon more than they actually like Television's Marquee Moon. Kind of like the number of people who say they love the Velvet Underground if infinitely more than the people who actually love the velvet underground. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Kind of like the number of people who say they love the Velvet Underground if infinitely more than the people who actually love the velvet underground.I believe that for sure.There are a tremendous number of VU songs I love, but the album White Light/White Heat mostly sucks. When was the last time anyone honestly sat through The Gift and actually enjoyed it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxiebean Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I believe that for sure.There are a tremendous number of VU songs I love, but the album White Light/White Heat mostly sucks. When was the last time anyone honestly sat through The Gift and actually enjoyed it?WL/WH is by far my favorite VU album. The Gift is pretty damn great if you turn the left speaker volume all the way down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 WL/WH is by far my favorite VU album. The Gift is pretty damn great if you turn the left speaker volume all the way down.Agreed. I listen to WL/WH as much as I listen to any VU album. (That said, I'm not sure I'm going to get any of the deluxe editions that just came out.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The Gift is pretty damn great if you turn the left speaker volume all the way down.Can I do the same thing on Sister Ray, so I don't have to hear Lou sing "suckin' on my ding-dong" 158 times? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 it took 162 times for Lou to finish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I love how a bunch of us Deadheads came in and derailed this thread. Think of the thread as a parking lot now. thanks, i've had Big Yellow Taxi stuck in my head this morning. oh, and i do love the tune! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 it took 162 times for Lou to finish.Heroin will do that to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Pearl Jam was at their worst at their beginning. Ten is terrible. After that, they got better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 "Ten" kept me from paying any mind to PJ....except that tune they did with Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan which was pretty cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Records that sell a lot and get really popular aren't always pandering to the lowest common denominator. Successful music and successful bands aren't always shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I liked Ten when it came out. Good stuff. I still like it, though rarely listen to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Pearl Jam was at their worst at their beginning. Ten is terrible. After that, they got better.I'm just the opposite. I loved everything they did up through No Codes, then they kinda lost me. I saw them live in Providence (Club Babyhead) shortly before Ten was released. Summer of '91, I believe, and even though I had never heard any of the material before, it still ranks among the greatest live performances I've ever seen. They were just glowing - practically levitating. There were about 20 people in the club. When the album came out a while later, I recognized every song they had played that night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I'm just the opposite. I loved everything they did up through No Codes, then they kinda lost me. I saw them live in Providence (Club Babyhead) shortly before Ten was released. Summer of '91, I believe, and even though I had never heard any of the material before, it still ranks among the greatest live performances I've ever seen. They were just glowing - practically levitating. There were about 20 people in the club. When the album came out a while later, I recognized every song they had played that night. the same for me. i didnt mind Yield, but after that lost me, until Last Kiss and then lost me again! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Club Babyhead! I saw a few shows there (TMBG, Los Lobos).No disrespect intended, but considering the thread, I should share my own Pearl Jam/early days story: seeing them open for the Red Hot Chili Peppers in the fall of '91. All I knew of them was the Mother Love Bone connection (not that I'd heard any Mother Love Bone at that point, but the story was out there). They had a small rabid group at the front of the stage, and forgive me, but Eddie Vedder came across as insufferably self-important and more fake than the dozens of hair-metal frontmen I'd spent the previous five years hating on. My friend and I spent the whole set making fun of them (a safe distance from anyone who cared). I do wonder what I'd think of that show if I saw footage today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Club Babyhead! I saw a few shows there (TMBG, Los Lobos).No disrespect intended, but considering the thread, I should share my own Pearl Jam/early days story: seeing them open for the Red Hot Chili Peppers in the fall of '91. All I knew of them was the Mother Love Bone connection (not that I'd heard any Mother Love Bone at that point, but the story was out there). They had a small rabid group at the front of the stage, and forgive me, but Eddie Vedder came across as insufferably self-important and more fake than the dozens of hair-metal frontmen I'd spent the previous five years hating on. My friend and I spent the whole set making fun of them (a safe distance from anyone who cared). I do wonder what I'd think of that show if I saw footage today.Yeah, Babyhead was awesome. I saw some great shows there. The Mother Love Bone connection was the reason I went to the show. I was a huge fan, and the ad in the paper said "Pearl Jam (featuring members of MLB)". Also, since Temple of the Dog had just been released I figured it might be a secret gig type thing.As insufferable and Stipe-like as he later became, Vedder was really cool that night. Offered me and a friend beer from their cooler after the show. The whole band was nice. I still have the Blaylock shirt I bought from Jeff Ament, and since I signed their mailing list they sent me their x-mas singles for the next few years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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