pmancini100 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 remember how they were saying frank lipedus was a candidate? and how hes wearing white? i think hes gonna be jacobs host body guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 ^^if that is true they better not have to kill Frank off!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
pmancini100 Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 frank vs. locke. im calling it now Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Ben has been my favorite character for many seasons now, and I think since by killing Jacob he's unleased a shitstorm on the island, he's going to make amends somehow by dying heroicly towards the end of the last season. But secretly I hope he implanted everyone on the island with little things that explode their hearts and he just kills everyone and walks off. Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 But secretly I hope he implanted everyone on the island with little things that explode their hearts and he just kills everyone and walks off. I would be so incredibly happy with that ending. And if the bomb didn't go off, and they only flashed forward, I think it is pretty clear that Miles was right and the future can't be changed. We've seen this with Sayid trying to kill Ben, and the Losties actions creating the future they were trying to change...same thing with the bomb and the incident. I'm starting to believe more and more that the past can't be changed, even though it is the Losties' present. They were always in Dharma in the 1970s, and just because to them, it is their present, it is still the past, and their present actions can't change that. Link to post Share on other sites
Bula Matari Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I would be so incredibly happy with that ending. And if the bomb didn't go off, and they only flashed forward, I think it is pretty clear that Miles was right and the future can't be changed. We've seen this with Sayid trying to kill Ben, and the Losties actions creating the future they were trying to change...same thing with the bomb and the incident. I'm starting to believe more and more that the past can't be changed, even though it is the Losties' present. They were always in Dharma in the 1970s, and just because to them, it is their present, it is still the past, and their present actions can't change that. First post on a Wilco fan board, and it is in a LOST thread. Irony lives. Anyway... I didn't make the connection that there was a flash forward. I assumed Juliette detonated the bomb. If it was a flash, where did they flash to? Will Juliette be injured at the bottom of a well? At the bottom of the Swan Station? I remember Richard saying he witnessed the O5+ 3 die. He wasn't at the Swan drilling site, so presumably they flashed. It will be a long wait until January 2010. Link to post Share on other sites
dunnright00 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I'm starting to believe more and more that the past can't be changed, even though it is the Losties' present. They were always in Dharma in the 1970s, and just because to them, it is their present, it is still the past, and their present actions can't change that. Then you believe it will be destiny that wins over free will, which is essentially what the war, the final season and ultimately the whole running theme of Lost is all about! First post on a Wilco fan board, and it is in a LOST thread. Irony lives. Anyway... I didn't make the connection that there was a flash forward. I assumed Juliette detonated the bomb. If it was a flash, where did they flash to? Will Juliette be injured at the bottom of a well? At the bottom of the Swan Station? I remember Richard saying he witnessed the O5+ 3 die. He wasn't at the Swan drilling site, so presumably they flashed. It will be a long wait until January 2010. I don't think it was a flash. The flashes were always preceded by something, some weirdness and sounds that caused everyone to grab their heads. This was just a flash and that was it... Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Then you believe it will be destiny that wins over free will, which is essentially what the war, the final season and ultimately the whole running theme of Lost is all about! I don't think it was a flash. The flashes were always preceded by something, some weirdness and sounds that caused everyone to grab their heads. This was just a flash and that was it... But we all know by now that the writers love to mislead the viewers and mess with our heads........there's no guarantee that the bomb really went off. Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Yeah, I'm pretty sure they meant for the ending to keep us guessing whether it was the bomb or the flash. I'm leaning toward flash. Link to post Share on other sites
dunnright00 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I had stopped watching LOST pretty much at the beginning of this season, just because the script was so totally ridiculous what with the island moving forwards, backwards, sidewards and whateverwards in time that I just couldn't be bothered anymore. Last night though I agreed to watch that summary kind of thing before the last 2 episodes. It only confirmed my theory that the script writers have completely lost track on what they are actually writing, and desperately try to make people believe that it is all part of a bigger plan. Yeah sure. Completely agree about Juliette being by far the most beautiful woman in LOST, and she belonged to Sawyer because the hottest guy also deserves the hottest woman. Oh yeah, I'm sure that next season the island is gonna move circlewards in time. I gotta say something here and, Pillowy Star please don't take this personally because it's not directed at you per say, but I hear this so much and it bugs me! There are a lot of shows out there that I don't like and feel like I would generally be loosing brain cells if I watched it, but I don't chime in to appreciation threads and say how bad it is! I just don't watch it! I understand if you have some investment into the show and it takes a turn that you don't like but, really? Just stop watching! P.S. please don't hate on me! I'm not coming at you, it's everyone, everywhere that feels the need to state how stupid the writers are and how far-fetched it all is... Sorry, rant over. Link to post Share on other sites
WilcoFan Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I gotta say something here and, Pillowy Star please don't take this personally because it's not directed at you per say, but I hear this so much and it bugs me! There are a lot of shows out there that I don't like and feel like I would generally be loosing brain cells if I watched it, but I don't chime in to appreciation threads and say how bad it is! I just don't watch it! I understand if you have some investment into the show and it takes a turn that you don't like but, really? Just stop watching! P.S. please don't hate on me! I'm not coming at you, it's everyone, everywhere that feels the need to state how stupid the writers are and how far-fetched it all is... Sorry, rant over. The other thing is that people tend to think the writers use time travel as a crutch that they never originally intended to. I don't believe this. And yes, it's far fetched. That's because real life isn't really as interesting as Lost is. Imagine if Lost was based in any kind of reality.. It would have been cancelled before the pilot ever aired. Link to post Share on other sites
pillowy star Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Oh I'm not offended at all, don't worry Everyone - you, me.... - is entitled to their opinion, and both count equally. I didn't realize though this was an appreciation only thread, I thought this was more of a discussion thread where people could voice their opinions be it good or bad. Link to post Share on other sites
insideoutoflove Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 The other thing is that people tend to think the writers use time travel as a crutch that they never originally intended to. I don't believe this.My friend came across some old Felicity reruns the other day (which was also a J.J. Abrams show) and said that she was curious as to how that show ended. She looked it up and apparently the last 6 episodes had to do with time travel. On Felicity. Come on!! J.J. Abrams has always been obsessed with time travel. And then he got his own show that wasn't some drama about a chick. Of course he's going to play with time travel! The whole damn series was always meant to involve it. It's no crutch, it's creator's choice/interest Link to post Share on other sites
dunnright00 Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Oh I'm not offended at all, don't worry Everyone - you, me.... - is entitled to their opinion, and both count equally. I didn't realize though this was an appreciation only thread, I thought this was more of a discussion thread where people could voice their opinions be it good or bad. Let me re-emphasize that I'm not talking about you personally, and yes I appreciate comments about the show good and bad. To me it's people who bag on the show on a whole and feel the need to tell everyone about it, I see so much of that and it get's old.Your post just started me on a bit of a rant, and made me think of all the other comments like this, not just hear at VC. Cheers! My friend came across some old Felicity reruns the other day (which was also a J.J. Abrams show) and said that she was curious as to how that show ended. She looked it up and apparently the last 6 episodes had to do with time travel. On Felicity. Come on!! J.J. Abrams has always been obsessed with time travel. And then he got his own show that wasn't some drama about a chick. Of course he's going to play with time travel! The whole damn series was always meant to involve it. It's no crutch, it's creator's choice/interest Seen Star Trek yet? Link to post Share on other sites
okp greg Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Then you believe it will be destiny that wins over free will, which is essentially what the war, the final season and ultimately the whole running theme of Lost is all about! See I disagree with that. Just because they can't change the past doesn't necessarily mean they don't have free will. If they went back to present time, then they very well may have the will to do what ever they'd like. Link to post Share on other sites
Calexico Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I loved the final episodes, the time travel thing and hopping back and forth had become a little tiresome to me also but this finale completely held me from start to finish. One thing, I was kind of under the impression that the writer's were just making it up as they went along and seeing where each season took them but I re-watched the pilot episode today and there was Jack talking about accidentally cutting the dural sac of his first solo surgery, which we saw in flashback at the end of season 5. So maybe they had it all figured out before they even started. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 I loved the final episodes, the time travel thing and hopping back and forth had become a little tiresome to me also but this finale completely held me from start to finish. One thing, I was kind of under the impression that the writer's were just making it up as they went along and seeing where each season took them but I re-watched the pilot episode today and there was Jack talking about accidentally cutting the dural sac of his first solo surgery, which we saw in flashback at the end of season 5. So maybe they had it all figured out before they even started. For me, the statue is what makes me realize that they have had it all figured out (although, admittedly, I was never really in doubt). I think it first appeared at the end of season 2 when Sayid sees it and asks why it only has 4 toes. And then no mention of it again until this season, I think. And if they haven't had it figured out, then they have been pretty brilliant in tying everything together, so far. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 18, 2009 Author Share Posted May 18, 2009 LOST books The following literary works, references or authors have been mentioned or shown in the series to date. Please see their main articles for details; this page is primarily for listing. I read The Invention of Morel a while back, and now I am reading The Third Policeman. Link to post Share on other sites
Calexico Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Watching back the pilot episode, weren't Boone and his sister annoying as fuck? Link to post Share on other sites
Mystik Spiral Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I thought Boone was OK at first but he turned into a whiny little bitch. Shannon couldn't have been killed off soon enough!! Link to post Share on other sites
Calexico Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 Oh man, she was a severe pain in the cock. How did they ever keep her alive so long? The two corpses in the cave early in Season One? Rose and Bernard maybe? With all the time travel malarkey going on you never know. It could be John and Yoko for all we know! Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 See I disagree with that. Just because they can't change the past doesn't necessarily mean they don't have free will. If they went back to present time, then they very well may have the will to do what ever they'd like. Yeah I'm more along these lines. I think the past is the past, and you can't change what has already happened. Just because it is the Losties future, doesn't mean it isn't occurring in the past, which has already happened and can't be changed. I think they very much have free will but just not the ability to change the past. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted May 19, 2009 Author Share Posted May 19, 2009 Oh man, she was a severe pain in the cock. How did they ever keep her alive so long? The two corpses in the cave early in Season One? Rose and Bernard maybe? With all the time travel malarkey going on you never know. It could be John and Yoko for all we know! There has been some discussion that they are the people in the cave. Speaking of annoying, I recall that there was also some talk that the people in the cave were Paulo and Nikki. Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted May 19, 2009 Share Posted May 19, 2009 I sure hope it aint Paulo and Nikki. That would be disappointing, not even because the people in the cave have to play a significant role in the show, but just because they sucked so bad. Link to post Share on other sites
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