Dude Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 http://www.spinner.com/2010/03/20/billy-bragg-talks-about-jail-guitar-doors-usa-new-album-with-wilco/ Interviewer: I really loved your work with Wilco on the Woody Guthrie material. Billy Bragg: Well, there's another 12 tracks that you haven't heard yet. We're trying to get them out for Woody's centenary in 2012. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The High Heat Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 I can wait a couple years, so long as we actually get that - and , of course, another studio album in between. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Unless these are already 'in the can', I can't imagine the boys (especially Jeff) going back to relive the past (and the acrimony) and working with BB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Perhaps something has come to pass since 2 years ago when Jeff told The Australian newspaper in an interview that Billy Bragg was "full of shit." ??? This is just a snippet of the whole interview, read the whole thing if you want the full perspective. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/arts/wilco-a-sharing-kind-of-band/story-e6frg8qf-1111115761751 Wilco was formed from the ashes of Tweedy's previous band, Uncle Tupelo, which fragmented when he fell out with the other songwriter, Jay Farrar, who went on to form Son Volt. Since then Tweedy and Wilco have collaborated with other musicians, most notably and notoriously English folk troubadour Billy Bragg. The Englishman and Wilco recorded two commercially successful albums, Mermaid Avenue and Mermaid Avenue II, that featured previously unrecorded Woody Guthrie lyrics presented to them by Guthrie's daughter, Nora. Friction arose between Bragg and Wilco over various aspects of the recording and, for Tweedy at least, it is clearly still an issue. When Bragg was in Australia in January he told The Australian that there were more recordings still to be released from the Mermaid sessions and that he was hopeful of presenting these as part of a boxed set and of setting up a tour with Wilco, something that never happened because of the acrimony that ensued. Tweedy, however, is fairly clear on this point. "Billy Bragg is so full of shit, man," he says, before pausing for a disturbingly long laugh. "That guy is full of shit," he manages again. "I don't know what he's talking about. If he has more stuff, then that's great, but I don't think there's any chance of us having anything to do with it." More laughter. "The guy's been saying that all over the place and I have no idea what he is talking about because he has never talked to us about it. There are no other songs that we have. Everything that we did was on the records. But I'm serious. He's full of shit. Nothing against Billy. He's just full of shit. "That's just what he's built his whole life on, so that's all right." As long as we're clear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
locke456 Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I wonder if this new batch of songs is related to the upcoming Jay Farrar/Woody Guthrie thingamajig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pillowy star Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 Perhaps something has come to pass since 2 years ago when Jeff told The Australian newspaper in an interview that Billy Bragg was "full of shit." ??? This is just a snippet of the whole interview, read the whole thing if you want the full perspective. http://www.theaustra...f-1111115761751 Wow. That must have completely slipped my mind. Not very nice things to say. Not at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 I'd love to hear some more MA stuff, but not from Bragg. If there's any Tweedy stuff yet to be released, I hope we get it some day, though it doesn't sound like there is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 MA2 wasn't as solid as the first (mostly because Bragg's material was weak), I don't know how good the stuff that wasn't good enough to make that record would be... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pnk Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 MA2 wasn't as solid as the first (mostly because Bragg's material was weak), I don't know how good the stuff that wasn't good enough to make that record would be... Man oh man, I have to respectfully disagree. Opinion only of course, but mine is that MA2 is the superior album. Airline to Heaven, Feed a Man, Remember the Mountain Bed... those are some of my favorite Wilco songs. And I love My Flying Saucer, too. I'm sure that debate has probably been done to death here, so whatever. Just had to stand up in support of a record I love. : ) Can anyone summarize what the beef was between Tweedy and Bragg, and why the parting was "acrimonious"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Artistic differences?? Maybe the way the album was mixed. Really what is the difference?? If there is more material, it is all to the good as far as I am concerned. As I have said for years...someday we will have the complete Mermaid Avenue sessions box set. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Can anyone summarize what the beef was between Tweedy and Bragg, and why the parting was "acrimonious"? Some people just don't work well together. They had pretty different views of how the sessions would go - Bragg thought he was getting a back-up band, and not much more, out of Wilco, and Wilco wanted a much larger role, obviously. Frankly, I'd pay tickets for a Tweedy v. Bragg charity boxing match, the proceeds of which would benefit the Guthrie foundation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turnips Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 folksy boxing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 Can anyone summarize what the beef was between Tweedy and Bragg, and why the parting was "acrimonious"? You should read the Kot book, and/or watch Man In The Sand. I don't think Jeff would lie. When I first saw this posted, I also thought of the Guthrie songs Jay is working on. It's either that, or Billy is going to do a Volume III by himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 the outtake "Greenback Dollar" is great, but that's a bit like Roses Bloom, in that it's not exactly a Guthrie song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 22, 2010 Share Posted March 22, 2010 the outtake "Greenback Dollar" is great, but that's a bit like Roses Bloom, in that it's not exactly a Guthrie song. Not to be confused with the Hoyt Axton song of the same name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted March 23, 2010 Share Posted March 23, 2010 Frankly, I'd pay tickets for a Tweedy v. Bragg charity boxing match, the proceeds of which would benefit the Guthrie foundation.I don't know. Maybe a friendly thing, but in an all out brawl I would put my dough on Bragg...he is much bigger. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share Posted March 23, 2010 Bragg and Tweedy were friendly enough to share a stage not too long ago, and as far as I know, they didn't box. http://www.wilcobase.com/event.php?event_key=1253 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Shackleford Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 This site (Nora Guthrie's?) says Mermaid Avenue Deluxe Box Set coming March 2012 on Nonesuch. http://www.woody100.com/newreleases.htm Maybe old Billy knew something after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonicshoulder Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 This site (Nora Guthrie's?) says Mermaid Avenue Deluxe Box Set coming March 2012 on Nonesuch. http://www.woody100....newreleases.htm Maybe old Billy knew something after all.WUNDERBAR!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcroach Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 This site (Nora Guthrie's?) says Mermaid Avenue Deluxe Box Set coming March 2012 on Nonesuch. http://www.woody100....newreleases.htm Maybe old Billy knew something after all. Interesting. Although it might not have unreleased material in it. it could just be the 2 albums, plus "Man in the sand", plus live tracks or the b-sides:My Thirty Thousand - “She Came Along To Me” Australian single, “Way Over Yonder In The Minor Key” single and “Mermaid Avenue Bonus EP” promo CDCalifornia Stars (1-14-2000 Late Night with Conan O'Brien, Los Angeles, CA) - “She Came Along To Me” Australian single and “Mermaid Avenue Bonus EP” promo CDAt My Window Sad And Lonely (Tweedy solo version) - “She Came Along To Me” Australian single and “Mermaid Avenue Bonus EP” promo CDBugeye Jim (Just Bill Bragg) - "She Came Along To Me" Australian single, "Way Over Yonder In The Minor Key" single and "Mermaid Avenue Bonus EP" promo CD1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (Just Billy Bragg) – New arrangement of “Hoodoo Voodoo” performed by Billy Bragg & the Blokes – "Daddy-O Daddy! Rare Family Songs of Woody Guthrie" compilation CDThe Jolly Banker (just Wilco) - not from the Mermaid Ave. SessionsWhen the Roses Bloom Again - not a Woody Gutherie song but form the Mermaid Ave. sessions - “Chelsea Walls” soundtrack and Oxford American Magazine “Southern Sampler” 2000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I think I predicted this box set several years ago. It only makes sense. Not all the material is in one place and it hasn't been repackaged so we can all re-buy it yet. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cam Jones Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Billy tweeted something about this recently. I think it'll happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockinrob Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Ive been hoping for a triple LP set or a Box set of the records for awhile now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobfrombob Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Glad I didn’t shell out $60 on eBay for a vinyl copy of the first Mermaid Ave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I shelled out about $20 for a vinyl copy from Billy Bragg's website before they disappeared. I think it was late last year or the beginning of this year... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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