Politics 2017

[KevinG]

I love how POTUS first response to this is that it was a mental health issue (just forget the fact if this guy was "brown" he would be singing another tune entirely).  But this is the same Congress and President who cut and are planning to cut a lot of mental health funding and made it easier for those who have mental illness to buy firearms. 

 

I have said this before, this is not an easy issue to solve, it is gonna take some work and compromise.  No side is gonna be truly happy with a solution if reached.  But we clearly have a problem.  We can not send our kids to school, we can not see a movie, we can not go to a Christmas party, we can not go to a concert, we can't even go to church with out the fear of getting shot.  That is a problem, that is not the price of freedom, that is fear, that is terrorism.  

[John Smith]

Rep Ted Lieu walked out on a moment of silence for the victims. He can’t do that any more without any actual action taking place to stop the next shooting.

 

White guy = lone wolf, mentally ill, price of freedom etc..,

Brown guy = terror, extreme vetting, close borders, Islam is the enemy etc...

Black guy = thug BLM terrorist blah blah blah

 

Which one commits the most mass shootings? Which one gets the benefit of the doubt? Which one do we do nothing about? Which one controls almost 100% of the government at all levels?

[ih8music]

My idiot cousin (who I love) just posted another insipid "it's not the guns, the problem is evil in society" article with examples of some knife attacks in China as evidence and I'm doing everything I can to bite my tongue and resist firing off a salvo that will do nothing but piss everyone off. These fucking guns...

[KevinG]

My idiot cousin (who I love) just posted another insipid "it's not the guns, the problem is evil in society" article with examples of some knife attacks in China as evidence and I'm doing everything I can to bite my tongue and resist firing off a salvo that will do nothing but piss everyone off. These fucking guns...

 

and this is exactly why nothing will ever be done about gun control, ever.  Those who fetishize guns will never see them as the problem and always point to something else.  And by pointing to something else, all they are doing is just taking the focus off of the guns.  Your cousin, the President, Congress, will offer no solution they just want to deflect from the real problem.  

 

I would ask you cousin, to see if since he does not see guns as the problem, what his solutions are and if he plans to vote for people who have those solutions.  

[Winston Legthigh]

Sweet! So how do we defeat evil? I do my part by smoking pot and playing frisbee and showing my boys the life-long love affair they'll have with Lego. 

[ih8music]

and this is exactly why nothing will ever be done about gun control, ever.  Those who fetishize guns will never see them as the problem and always point to something else.  And by pointing to something else, all they are doing is just taking the focus off of the guns.  Your cousin, the President, Congress, will offer no solution they just want to deflect from the real problem.  

 

I would ask you cousin, to see if since he does not see guns as the problem, what his solutions are and if he plans to vote for people who have those solutions.  

 

fuck it.  I engaged.  Yee haw.

[Magnetized]

A couple of gun-related comments....

 

I posted a comment on the FB page of one of my nephew's friends, He had made a statement about "God help us. Offering up prayers to the lone star state." I said that prayers and God didn't seem to be doing the trick. Is it appropriate yet to talk about some level of gun control? Hoo boy! His dad jumped in to say the usual things about how there was plenty of regulation (we just have to enforce existing laws) and the real problem is mental illness, etc. It made me more aware than usual how much of a bubble/echo chamber I live in. I never hear anyone I know espousing ideas like that. It kind of hit me how little we really know about people we sorta know. Both dad and son are fairly "cool" guys, both musicians, etc. I never would have thought they would hold these opinions. 

 

I was thinking back to many years ago when I lived in Singapore (1995-1997). There are a lot more Brits and Australians than Americans there, so as a single American woman I was a little bit of a rarity. I can't tell you how many times people I would encounter, from cab drivers to co-workers to store clerks, would say something to the effect of "Oh, American. Bang bang, huh?" This was around the time when drive-by shootings were very much in the news. It struck me how prevalent the stereotype was of America as some kind of gun toting wild west. There's nothing like living in a different culture to bring it home for you how people view your own country. I wonder how much worse our international reputation is now, considering the spate of mass killings and Trumpism. I don't imagine our public image has improved.  

[ih8music]

Perfect timing.  Johnstown, PA is where many of my relatives live (and the cousin who I mentioned debating above is from).  This article is 100% correct based on what I see.  https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800

[Oil Can Boyd]

Perfect timing.  Johnstown, PA is where many of my relatives live (and the cousin who I mentioned debating above is from).  This article is 100% correct based on what I see.  https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/08/donald-trump-johnstown-pennsylvania-supporters-215800

Wow - that was a pretty grim read.  

[spankadelphia]

Buckle up everyone... you don't want to miss the fireworks.

Shadow Government = FUCKED. Checkmate. Game over. Over 300 sealed indictments in the last few days.

President Trump = Military Intelligence Asset... he was asked to run and provided protection by MI... he is surrounded by Generals for a reason.

DNI/DIA/DOD/Naval Intelligence vs. CIA/FBI/State Department/Soros & Rothschild funded NGOs

Civilian government has gone completely off the reservation in our lifetimes... involved in drug trafficking, human trafficking, child porn production, war profiteering, massive financial fraud,... Federal courts are compromised ... expect military tribunals

Mainstream media outlets knowingly disseminating propaganda on the US population = broadcast licenses revoked by FCC.

9/11 was a joint operation between Israel/House of Saud and rogue elements of US intel... PNAC = Project For A New American Century. AIPAC (Israel lobby) involved

Everything will be clear in due time... the final chess pieces are being moved into place

May God have mercy on our souls for doing what needs to be done... they forced us to do this.... we never asked for it

[remphish1]

Buckle up everyone... you don't want to miss the fireworks.

Shadow Government = FUCKED. Checkmate. Game over. Over 300 sealed indictments in the last few days.

President Trump = Military Intelligence Asset... he was asked to run and provided protection by MI... he is surrounded by Generals for a reason.

DNI/DIA/DOD/Naval Intelligence vs. CIA/FBI/State Department/Soros & Rothschild funded NGOs

Civilian government has gone completely off the reservation in our lifetimes... involved in drug trafficking, human trafficking, child porn production, war profiteering, massive financial fraud,... Federal courts are compromised ... expect military tribunals

Mainstream media outlets knowingly disseminating propaganda on the US population = broadcast licenses revoked by FCC.

9/11 was a joint operation between Israel/House of Saud and rogue elements of US intel... PNAC = Project For A New American Century. AIPAC (Israel lobby) involved

Everything will be clear in due time... the final chess pieces are being moved into place

May God have mercy on our souls for doing what needs to be done... they forced us to do this.... we never asked for it

Israel has had no involvement in 9/11 sorry to bust your bubble. These truthers to me are nothing more than internet trolls. Everything is a conspiracy to them. Truthers can’t handle the fact that there are insane, mentally unstable people in the world. Newton really rubbed me the wrong way. Then these “truthers” harass family’s after a tragedy. Seriously?! I’m not saying there are never false flags but again these are the dummies who believe Obama was born in Kenya. Repulsive. Also yes a plane can take down a building especially when the steel has been compromised then subject to hours of hot burning jet fuel.

[Doug C]

I'm assuming that the above is a copy/paste from some nutter site and the OP didn't make it clear that his/her goal was "look at these shithouse rat crazy fuckers". Otherwise, he/she is, him/her self, bat shit.

[remphish1]

I'm assuming that the above is a copy/paste from some nutter site and the OP didn't make it clear that his/her goal was "look at these shithouse rat crazy fuckers". Otherwise, he/she is, him/her self, bat shit.

Yep!

[Oil Can Boyd]

The latest in sexual harassment accusations:  Al Franken.  

 

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

[lost highway]

The latest in sexual harassment accusations:  Al Franken.  

 

http://www.kabc.com/2017/11/16/leeann-tweeden-on-senator-al-franken/

 

Damn it, Al!  That stings about as bad as Louis CK. So many reckonings.

[Winston Legthigh]

Fuck.

 

Statement from Franken:

 

https://twitter.com/arogDC/status/931215653876445185/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2Fentry%2Fal-franken-leeann-tweeden-groping_us_5a0dad66e4b0c0b2f2f8445a

[ih8music]

Not as icky as Louie's but still disappointing... but like CK, at least he admitted to it and has apologized.

[John Smith]

I believe Franken has asked the senate ethics committee to investigate.

 

Sadly though I imagine faux news is calling for his head rather than questioning the woman’s statements.

 

Me? Investigate it, censor him if guilty, move on if not. Then it’s up to MN voters to vote him out, or re-elect him.

[NoJ]

Listening to that moron Limbaugh trying to equate Franken's actions to Roy Browns is hilarious.

[calvino]

Ha! I was just listening to that on the way home from work. 

[Winston Legthigh]

Whataboutism

[KevinG]

It is interesting how different the accused actions have been.  Ray Moore and Donald Trump and their supporters have said their accusers are liars and have impugned their character.  Whereas Franken has apologized and been pretty straightforward.  Now is that because there is some sort of photographic evidence?  That is hard to say.  It will be interesting where the ethics investigation goes from here.  

 

Nonetheless, I think Franken should resign.  Admit to wrong doing, and let everyone know that this is unacceptable behavior and not fitting of someone who holds public office.  It would suck and we would lose a pretty good senator, but it has to be done.  Show the American people that Democrats stand for something and are the honest politicians this country needs.  Then the moral equivalency and whataboutism (on this issue) will be cut off at the knees.

 

After Franken resigns the Governor of MN should appoint Keith Ellison, a Somali-American Muslim to his seat.  And if, God forbid, Roy Moore is elected to the Senate, I would love to watch his racist head explode. 

 

Also BTW isn't funny how being a super racist homophobe doesn't disqualify someone for Senate, but cruising for teenagers at the mall does.    

[Sir Stewart]

Nonetheless, I think Franken should resign.  Admit to wrong doing, and let everyone know that this is unacceptable behavior and not fitting of someone who holds public office.  It would suck and we would lose a pretty good senator, but it has to be done.  Show the American people that Democrats stand for something and are the honest politicians this country needs.  Then the moral equivalency and whataboutism (on this issue) will be cut off at the knees.

 

Yes.

[ih8music]

Nonetheless, I think Franken should resign.  Admit to wrong doing, and let everyone know that this is unacceptable behavior and not fitting of someone who holds public office.  It would suck and we would lose a pretty good senator, but it has to be done.  Show the American people that Democrats stand for something and are the honest politicians this country needs.  Then the moral equivalency and whataboutism (on this issue) will be cut off at the knees.

 

After Franken resigns the Governor of MN should appoint Keith Ellison, a Somali-American Muslim to his seat. 

 

Very interesting idea.  I like it on many levels.

[Chez]

If every US Senator and Representative was forced to resign over acts of poor (non-criminal) judgement they committed before they became elected officials, both chambers would be virtually empty.  I don't think Franken should resign over this.  Let the voters of the State of Minnesota decide his fate.