Sir Stewart Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Still - I was really bored by JWH the first few listens. Thought it was lightweight and uninspired. Now it's probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite Dylan album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I'm not feeling this new one - but I need to remember, I wasn't feeling John Wesley Harding the first few times I heard that. After two listens I'm in the same boat. I definitely don't think it is crap, but thus far it's a bit boring. I not a big fan of the constant "vamp" that is running throughout If I Ever Go To Houston. I do like how it ends, as of now I like the last two songs the best. That being all said I glad we have a new Dylan record and I am looking forward to seeing him perform the new songs. Regarding, John Wesley Harding is in my Top Five by Dylan. Screeching harmonica and all. (an aside - Lou you are wanted in the Dead forum with a Garcia/Zappa show review if you have one, I figure you might not venture over there again for a while --- I would have sent a PM you but I guess it's still down.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I think a lot of people were taken back by that album, more so Nashville Skyline. Or so I have read. Not only did he move from protest songs to beat inspired imagery, but all of a sudden he was doing more straight forward songs, many of which, had biblical overtones. Although Blonde on Blonde is one of my favorites, I prefer the more straight forward songs. Dear Landlord is one of favorite Dylan songs. Of course the music is different also, it's quiet, as opposed to some of the loud tones of Blonde on Blonde. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I thought it was lightweight and uninspired after the first few listens, but that transformed into understated and reserved beauty. Like a nicely aged and perfectly balanced Burgundy. I guess it's a fine line. But I am safely on the other side of the line. ETA: that's not to say that it's on par with TOOM or LT. But once I realized it wasn't either of those, I got comfortable with what it is. And that's good enough for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 (an aside - Lou you are wanted in the Dead forum with a Garcia/Zappa show review if you have one, I figure you might not venture over there again for a while --- I would have sent a PM you but I guess it's still down.)omg I better get over there then. So why is the PM down. I need to get some valuable record day merch to a guy in Alabama. I thought it was lightweight and uninspired after the first few listens, but that transformed into understated and reserved beauty. Like a nicely aged and perfectly balanced Burgundy. I guess it's a fine line. But I am safely on the other side of the line. ETA: that's not to say that it's on par with TOOM or LT. But once I realized it wasn't either of those, I got comfortable with what it is. And that's good enough for me.which album did you think was lightweight? This one or JWH?? JWH is hardly lightweight, only the initial sound comes across that way, I Dreamed I saw St. Augustine is one of the greatest songs ever and where would all of us be without All Along the Watchtower?? LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 which album did you think was lightweight? This one or JWH?? JWH is hardly lightweight, only the initial sound comes across that way, I Dreamed I saw St. Augustine is one of the greatest songs ever and where would all of us be without All Along the Watchtower?? LouieB This one, LouieB, this one. JWH is one of my favorites. You know, for a guy who said he is somewhat speechless a few posts back, you sure have a lot to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 This one, LouieB, this one. Re: JWH - "The Ballad of Frankie Lee and Judas Priest" just might be my desert island Dylan song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 This one, LouieB, this one. JWH is one of my favorites. You know, for a guy who said he is somewhat speechless a few posts back, you sure have a lot to say. I never am at a loss for words unless being confronted by someone expressing an opinion that the old Bob Dylan trumps the young one. Someone putting up Theft and Loss up against Highway 61 is simply no contest to me. One is a pleasant listen with little heft (with the exception of High Water and Mississippi which are great songs for the average songwriter..) and a certified masterpiece with one of THE greatest song of all times on it (like a Rolling Stone) and all the rest being not far behind.... ( have I made up for lost time????) LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dylan_1 Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 It's a lovely album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RainDogToo Posted April 29, 2009 Author Share Posted April 29, 2009 Bob Dylan on American Music and the Problem With Pop America's greatest songwriter talks about building the perfect sound, bootlegs and his chat with France's president In the current Rolling Stone on stands now, Bob Dylan discusses his new album Together Through Life and American icons from Chuck Berry to Walt Whitman to Elvis Presley. Here Douglas Brinkley shares more of his conversations with America's greatest songwriter. Read the interview here:http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/278...roblem_with_pop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wilceaux Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I'm wondering who RS's "Dirtiest Girl In Porn" is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I'm wondering who RS's "Dirtiest Girl In Porn" is. From the cover pic, it looks like Dylan has an idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I never am at a loss for words unless being confronted by someone expressing an opinion that the old Bob Dylan trumps the young one. Someone putting up Theft and Loss up against Highway 61 is simply no contest to me. One is a pleasant listen with little heft (with the exception of High Water and Mississippi which are great songs for the average songwriter..) and a certified masterpiece with one of THE greatest song of all times on it (like a Rolling Stone) and all the rest being not far behind.... ( have I made up for lost time????) LouieB I agree that they can't compete in terms of importance. But, I like to listen to Love & Theft more than Bringing It All Back Home and Blonde on Blonde because I like every single track on it - so I tend to listen to it all the way through. I don't really do that very often with those other 2 albums even though they have songs on it that are of huge significance to western music. I must admit I do tend to listen right the way through all the time with Highway 61 Revisited, though. I guess what I'm saying is that my favourite Dylan albums, are different than a list I'd make in terms of importance. John Wesley Harding still comes out top on both lists though! (cos I see it as heralding in the music of the 1970s, and that's a very important thing) I'm wondering who RS's "Dirtiest Girl In Porn" is. I think it's Sasha Grey, cos she's a porn star and has just made a film with Steven Soderbergh. Oh, and I read about this in the Sunday Times, not on some porn site! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 hmmmm. pitchfork gave this 5.4 here you can also listen to a stream there too, to make your own mind up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is pretty amusing given the back and forth here. NPR's Soundcheck did a debate of classic Dylan vs. new Dylan: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episo...segments/129880 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is pretty amusing given the back and forth here. NPR's Soundcheck did a debate of classic Dylan vs. new Dylan: http://www.wnyc.org/shows/soundcheck/episo...segments/129880Thanks for this. I've listened to the album once through so far. I'm not blown away, but it's a very entertaining listen. I'll definitely keep going back to this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I got the cd in the mail yesterday. I think his artwork/cd booklet art/info is about as bad as Bruce Springsteen's artwork/cd booklet art/info. I noticed their is a reference to the estate of Willie Dixon in the thank you department. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I noticed their is a reference to the estate of Willie Dixon in the thank you department.Translation: "Please don't sue me." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 It does not really say why. So it must be something like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HungryHippo Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 the music to 'My Wife's Home Town' is credited to both Bob Dylan and Willie Dixon. didn't Louie B point out that the music was pretty much lifted from a Muddy Waters song? wonder which song Waters lifted from Dixon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 It seems both silly and cool for Dylan to give musical credit to Dixon for one song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 It seems both silly and cool for Dylan to give musical credit to Dixon for one song. in that radio show that Mattz posted it kind of explains why. Willie Dixon's estate successfully sued Led Zeppelin - so that's set a precedent for having to give him credit. none of those other blues guys have done this, or, if they have, they haven't been successful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 the music to 'My Wife's Home Town' is credited to both Bob Dylan and Willie Dixon. didn't Louie B point out that the music was pretty much lifted from a Muddy Waters song? wonder which song Waters lifted from Dixon? Aha - I missed that. I received several boxes of cds from Amazon yesterday, and have not yet read all the liner notes that closely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 didn't Louie B point out that the music was pretty much lifted from a Muddy Waters song? wonder which song Waters lifted from Dixon? Beyond Here Lies Nothing is the same as Black Magic Woman (that's the Fleetwood Mac version, but it's also Otis Rush's All Your Love - which is what Black Magic Woman borrows from in the first place) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jc4prez Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Beyond Here Lies Nothing is the same as Black Magic Woman (that's the Fleetwood Mac version, but it's also Otis Rush's All Your Love - which is what Black Magic Woman borrows from in the first place) http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7014986465 thats right bob dylan and robert hunter, off brodway musical Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.