lost highway Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 I think the weirdest thing for me is the primaries have gone on so long that it doesn't even seem weird anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
Magnetized Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 That's what I mean, Lost Highway. It's gone on so long that it starts to feel normal. But it seemed really unthinkable less than a year ago. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Yeah, outrage seems to run out after a while. I suppose part of it is my optimism that his significance has peaked as a dog whistle for an idiotic minority too small and repugnant to gain effective traction. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I would still be surprised if he gets the nomination. It's unlikely that he will have the majority of delegates he needs for the first ballot. After that, all bets are off and the GOP will do everything it can to prevent him from winning. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I had a dream my sister was running a local Trump campaign office. Glad to wake up from that. Still waiting on waking up from this dream where she's a Trump supporter. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I can't see any way that Trump is NOT going to be the nominee. The GOP will figure that they need to re-entrench Congress so they can thwart Hillary when she wins. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I can't see any way that Trump is NOT going to be the nominee. The GOP will figure that they need to re-entrench Congress so they can thwart Hillary when she wins. LouieB And putting Trump at the top of the ticket is the exact opposite way to try to accomplish that. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 The more that the Sanders v Clinton thing goes on, the more annoying I find Sanders. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 He's fine -- it's his most fervent supporters (and the GOP trolls egging them on) which annoy me. But that's politics. I still think it was worse in '08. Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I don't remember there being Obama supporters who vowed to vote third party if Hilary won the nomination. Or vice versa. But it is extremely common among Sanders supporters. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 As a Sanders supporter I find the Sanders supporters who are still bashing Clinton to be totally irritating. Sorry guys it's about over and even Bernie is going to have to figure out how to cruise into the convention, get his time, and exit gracefully and support the ticket. Okay so Hillary can be a pain in the butt, but let's face it, she isn't all that different from Bernie, or the Bernie that would eventually be as the elected president. He seems to have a bit of a dog whistle himself when it comes to African Americans too. Cool it Bern. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Okay so Hillary can be a pain in the butt, but let's face it, she isn't all that different from Bernie, or the Bernie that would eventually be as the elected president. I just don't buy this. I believe the Clinton's are driven mostly by enriching themselves and their reputations even more so than most politicians. I would argue that Bernie feels this far less. I don't necessarily agree with Bernie's solutions to our problems, but I believe he is the most earnest in his beliefs. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I don't remember there being Obama supporters who vowed to vote third party if Hilary won the nomination. Or vice versa. But it is extremely common among Sanders supporters. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/08/clinton.voters/ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-half-of-clintons-supporters-wont-back-obama/ Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Earnest indeed. I guess we can leave it at that. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 And who can forget this lady from 2008. Hillary Cling Supporter Loses It! Attaches Barack Obama!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeGPzk8Oca8 Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/08/clinton.voters/ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/06/exit-polls-half-of-clintons-supporters-wont-back-obama/Yeah, it looked pretty rough for a while there. But to her credit Hillary strongly supported Obama once she dropped out and virtually all of her supporters followed suit. I fully expect Sanders to do the same. Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I have some Sander supporting friends who have been going after Clinton like rabid dogs for months. These are people I know well, but I've seen the exact same thing from countless acquaintances and strangers, They think she's a front-runner for most evil living human, and that is not an exaggeration. I don't know how these folks could possibly walk that back and give her their vote. So, while there was some "I refuse to vote for _____" in '08, the vitriol this time appears to me to be more widespread and vicious. I think this time, for many, it's not just empty rhetoric. A significant number of people will carry out their refusal to vote Clinton, should she be the nominee. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 It's amazing how things can change quickly in politics. For example, I think we're in the midst of a Trump makeover to a more mainstream candidate. I'm seeing less and less coverage of violence at his rallies, of the hateful things he's said about Mexicans, Muslims, and other already marginalized groups. Then there's George H.W. Bush who seemed unbeatable after the (apparent) success of the Gulf War. Clinton remembers how that worked out. While the election is only 6 months off, it's a whole half year away, if you take my meaning. Lots of Dems will forget or lessen the vitriol they had toward Clinton when faced with the reality of a Cruz or Trump administration. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I can't wait for the end of the primary season. This has gone on too long and clearly the November election, still 6 months off, is coming into focus. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 We'll see if the press was telling tales about things locking in after this, our upteenth super Tuesday. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Bernie is starting to look toasty. If he can't pick up anything other than RI tonight, I'd say his path is pretty well narrowed down to nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 Clinton vs. Trump is looking all but inevitable, other than the impending RNC meltdown. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Clinton vs. Trump is looking all but inevitable, other than the impending RNC meltdown. It is truly mind-boggling that Trump is more than likely going to be the nominee. This race is so tight, though, that each state next up with its primary becomes huge, which is exciting. As inevitable as Trump looks now, a loss in Indiana next week will change the narrative once again (and it currently looks really close). Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Well that was interesting; one step closer to Trump - Clinton faceoff. Why on earth is the California primary so damn late? LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
Chez Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 ^^^ Pacific time! Link to post Share on other sites
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