YouWouldKnow Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 This record is what Wico should have sounded like with Bennett. He had too standard of a style of playing that got kinda boring after a while(in my opinion). Tweedy and Cline are like a 4 fucking headed dragon spewing fire and killing unicorns.PS- can you tell that i play guitar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nonlinear Nonfiction Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 This record is what Wico should have sounded like with Bennett. He had too standard of a style of playing that got kinda boring after a while(in my opinion). Phew! You had me worried for a second, I thought that was a fact! They are hardly comparable in both the kinds of contributions they make to the band (song-writing versus guitar solos) and also their style of play. I don't see Nels jamming on the keys. I love Nels, I also love Bennett. Post-Bennett Wilco is just a different band...in my opinion. Tweedy and Cline are like a 4 fucking headed dragon spewing fire and killing unicorns. But they each only have one head... PS- can you tell that i play guitar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H to the ickle Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Dumb metaphors notwithstanding, I also really appreciate Nels' work on this album. It's both explosive and reserved which fits the album's tone very well. I was half-afraid that a studio record with Nels on it would de-evolve into a clusterfuck of crazy noodling and eight minute long instrumentals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I was half-afraid that a studio record with Nels on it would de-evolve into a clusterfuck of crazy noodling and eight minute long instrumentals. I'm pretty sure Pat and John's pop sensibilities reined Nels in. A little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I'm pretty sure Pat and John's pop sensibilities reined Nels in. A little.I was a little worried that Pat and John's Autumn Defense sensibilities would influence this record too much--and I'm still a little worried. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Pat and John are getting a big too big for their briches. The albumhasn't come out yet, it's time for some controversy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danelectro Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 I was half-afraid that a studio record with Nels on it would de-evolve into a clusterfuck of crazy noodling and eight minute long instrumentals. I had similar "fears", from the minute Nels came on board I thought the band was heading in that direction. Then BAM comes SBS. Honestly this is the record I always hoped Wilco would make, classic classic rock without sounding like a retro act or ripping any one band. As for the Jay Bennett thing, Jay brought alot to the band and IMO the albums he had a hand in are still the "best". With just one album under his belt I'm not going to say Nels is some kind of Wilco savior though he certainly brings great stuff to the band. His playing on SBS is just great, at times he sounds like George Benson and Jimmy Page, on the same song. Truely amazing stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Pat and John are getting a big too big for their briches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Pat and John are getting a big too big for their briches. They'd better get it through their heads that there's only one centre to this circle. Otherwise, they're next on the block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H to the ickle Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 They'd better get it through their heads that there's only one centre to this circle. Otherwise, they're next on the block. Wilco without John Stiratt would be weird as hell. But you're analogy is spot on and plagiarized. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
You Can Be The Stone Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Nels does have a different sound than Jay Bennett;However! I've only seen snippets of Pat's guitar work from Walken / Hoodoo Voodoo / Autumn Defense shows, but the snippets have been pretty good; he's got that Jay sound to it. And as far as Nels goes, the reason why I think he's so good is that his best moment isn't the noisy shredding in I.G., but the soft touches he has on "Either Way"'s solo. The notes he strikes in seconds 2:03 to 2:06 are so amazing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusetc84 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 This record is what Wico should have sounded like with Bennett. He had too standard of a style of playing that got kinda boring after a while(in my opinion). Tweedy and Cline are like a 4 fucking headed dragon spewing fire and killing unicorns.PS- can you tell that i play guitar? I'm a big Bennett fan...but God...can you say that thing about Unicorns again? It was amazing...a youtube link maybe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laugh at every joke Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Me gusta Nels Cline....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 no he isnt. i want his jazzy solos out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 no he isnt. i want his jazzy solos out nels truly is a god, i've met him, he's forty foot tall. he told me that he conjurs the sound out of his amp, the guitar is just for looks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Nels is amazing. I hope he stays with Jeff & Co. for a long time. But lets be factual...there is only ONE God. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Nels Cline is Cod! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagent Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 It'd be nice if people would stop trying to compare and contrast the different iterations of Wilco's sound and, well, band members as well. Their catalogue is what it is and all of the songs represent solid musicianship. That said, Nels Cline does a great job on all the songs. I was somewhat worried that a lot of his guitar work would have the same kind of sound. But luckily I was quite wrong - his playing is all spectacular, whether its a supporting riff or an all out solo. You can't compare his playing to that of Jay Bennett. Nor can you really compare how much either guitarist added to the band at the time. They both have lended great musical talent to Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 It'd be nice if people would stop trying to compare and contrast the different iterations of Wilco's sound and, well, band members as well. Nels>Jay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 Nels>Jay couldnt be more wrong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orkie Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 sounds like any other adult-lite smooth jazz guitarist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 The best guitar album Wilco made in my opinion is A Ghost is Born, which had neither Bennett or Cline. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magusmachine Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 I'll second that emotion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 And as far as Nels goes, the reason why I think he's so good is that his best moment isn't the noisy shredding in I.G., but the soft touches he has on "Either Way"'s solo. The notes he strikes in seconds 2:03 to 2:06 are so amazing.While I can get behind you on this... sounds like any other adult-lite smooth jazz guitarist....and this seems a little hyperbolic, I'm not much of a fan of Nels as a studio guitarist for Wilco. There's no doubt the man's an extremely talented guitarist, but I don't think he's ever going to be my favorite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reagent Posted March 5, 2007 Share Posted March 5, 2007 You guys do realize that Nels has played a lot of styles other than jazz (like... every other style) over the course of his career. And its not like he plays exclusively jazzy stuff on SBS, which is what I was afraid of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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