uncool2pillow Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 How'd that guy get through security? Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I truly believe the time has come for America to declare war on America. So much for Obama's vision of uniting the country. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I feel the same way. Thanks. Now that's an endorsement I like you just as much Jules whether you like it or not. Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Good Old Neaon wrote: "[T]he lively arts of the millennial U.S.A. treat anhedonia and internal emptiness as hip and cool. Link to post Share on other sites
PigSooie Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 How'd that guy get through security? The old white dude? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I like you just as much Jules whether you like it or not. Oh, I like it. Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 as a sidebar, the john mccain who gave that concession speech last night, is the man i may not have voted for, but would have felt decent enough about having in office. it's amazing to me how awful that campaign was run in contrast to his opponent. i can't and don't begrudge him at all...but to his running mate and the rest of his campaign advisors, i think we need to re-examine what the 'real america' is and can be.I agree. I almost felt sorry for him that he had no control over his crowd and seemed embarrassed by it, but then I remembered it was him who sold out his character and became all that he had previously disdained. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I agree. I almost felt sorry for him that he had no control over his crowd and seemed embarrassed by it, but then I remembered it was him who sold out his character and became all that he had previously disdained.He was trying to win an election. Obama didn't exactly follow in his own legistlative footsteps once he set out to become President. Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I like that McCain didn Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I agree. I almost felt sorry for him that he had no control over his crowd and seemed embarrassed by it, but then I remembered it was him who sold out his character and became all that he had previously disdained.His "crowd" would readily tear him apart if it would save more aborted fetuses and speed up the End of Times. Link to post Share on other sites
Artifice Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Continuing my post from last night, though I voted for Obama, what in the hell is up with the AP not declaring GA for McCain yet? Yahoo (AP) results 99% reporting, a commanding 240k lead that he has held since the early results started coming in, and they WILL NOT call it for McCain, even at 11 AM EST the next day. WTF? Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Obama will have to look to avoid the trap that winners of elections fall into: 1. He cannot assume that the people who voted for him did so for the reasons that he assumes they did.2. He must not overreach. 3. Electoral rhetoric cannot sustain an administration for any length of time.4. Presidents do not 'rule', they govern5. People are going to expect a follow through on promises; however, a President cannot play the 'payoff' game. Keeping the political base satisfied must take second place to the actual governance of the country6. One must stay focused but also be flexible. I just hope that he really doesn't believe all this messianic crap that has floated around. High expectations can lead to quick disappointment. America(ns) tends to devour people who disappoint them. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Obama will have to look to avoid the trap that winners of elections fall into: 1. He cannot assume that the people who voted for him did so for the reasons that he assumes they did.2. He must not overreach. 3. Electoral rhetoric cannot sustain an administration for any length of time.4. Presidents do not 'rule', the govern5. People are going to expect a follow through on promises; however, a President cannot play the 'payoff' game. Keeping the political base satisfied must take second place to the actual governance of the country6. One must stay focused but also be flexible. I just hope that he really doesn't believe all this messianic crap that has floated around. High expectations can lead to quick disappointment. America(ns) tends to devour people who disappoint them.Best post on this thread! Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 He was trying to win an election. Obama didn't exactly follow in his own legistlative footsteps once he set out to become President. like it or not, that is 100% truth. this may just be my view, but there was more of an inclusiveness to the tone of the obama campaign, where mccain seemed to allow himself to become 'maverick' in name only and cowtow to the same exact base of the last 2 elections. somebody should have seen earlier on that wasn't going to play this time around. Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I just like to point out that the Republican's failed to jump on the fact that Obama admitted to being a criminal on Monday Night Football earlier this week. Obama said that he had picked UNC to win his March Madness pool, and it had not worked out well for him this year. March Madness pools are an unsanctioned and illegal form of gambling, and to flaunt his corruption on national TV is just unthinkable. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Continuing my post from last night, though I voted for Obama, what in the hell is up with the AP not declaring GA for McCain yet? Yahoo (AP) results 99% reporting, a commanding 240k lead that he has held since the early results started coming in, and they WILL NOT call it for McCain, even at 11 AM EST the next day. WTF? Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 I just like to point out that the Republican's failed to jump on the fact that Obama admitted to being a criminal on Monday Night Football earlier this week. Obama said that he had picked UNC to win his March Madness pool, and it had not worked out well for him this year. March Madness pools are an unsanctioned and illegal form of gambling, and to flaunt his corruption on national TV is just unthinkable. Impeach Obama! I told my kids they can call me Omama, since I'm the president of our house. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Continuing my post from last night, though I voted for Obama, what in the hell is up with the AP not declaring GA for McCain yet? Yahoo (AP) results 99% reporting, a commanding 240k lead that he has held since the early results started coming in, and they WILL NOT call it for McCain, even at 11 AM EST the next day. WTF? I think some absentee and early voting numbers have not been factored in yet. 600,000 was the figure I had read. Link to post Share on other sites
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quarter23cd Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Obama will have to look to avoid the trap that winners of elections fall into: 1. He cannot assume that the people who voted for him did so for the reasons that he assumes they did.2. He must not overreach. 3. Electoral rhetoric cannot sustain an administration for any length of time.4. Presidents do not 'rule', the govern5. People are going to expect a follow through on promises; however, a President cannot play the 'payoff' game. Keeping the political base satisfied must take second place to the actual governance of the country6. One must stay focused but also be flexible.Shorter version: Don't be Bush. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Impeach Obama!I remember a hilarious news conference that Dave Berry held at the National Press Club about a week after Clinton's inauguration during which he constantly referenced "the failed Clinton Administration". Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 like it or not, that is 100% truth. this may just be my view, but there was more of an inclusiveness to the tone of the obama campaign, where mccain seemed to allow himself to become 'maverick' in name only and cowtow to the same exact base of the last 2 elections. somebody should have seen earlier on that wasn't going to play this time around.Hey, I agree for the most part. I was just pointing out that both candidates left behind much of what they had voted for before in the interest of running a successful campaign for President. As has been discussed, we still don't know if Obama will revert back to his "most liberal Senator" stances, or stay towards the middle. He's a smart man, so I'm thinking the latter, but Reid and Pelosi were practically drooling last night. Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 He was trying to win an election. Obama didn't exactly follow in his own legistlative footsteps once he set out to become President.This has nothing to do with the issues he ran on and everything to do with abandoning all the so-called "character" he was so proud of (and rightfully so). He did try to win an election and he sold his soul to do it. I think he may be taking a good long look in the mirror this morning and find himself not too proud of what he did to try to win. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 This has nothing to do with the issues he ran on and everything to do with abandoning all the so-called "character" he was so proud of (and rightfully so). He did try to win an election and he sold his soul to do it. I think he may be taking a good long look in the mirror this morning and find himself not too proud of what he did to try to win.character is subjective Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Who did everyone watch last night? After flipping around every channel, I don't know how anyone can watch the networks. ABC and CBS were terrible. I doubt Charlie Gibson can operate a toaster, much less an interactive map. And how is anyone still taking Katie Couric seriously. I feel sorry for Bob Schieffer, who is 1000 times the journalist she ever will be. Fox and NBC were okay, I guess, but I can't watch Shepard Smith. He just looks funny to me. I flipped between Fox News and CNN. Brit Hume is the best lead guy on any of the channels and Juan Williams from NPR was excellent as an analyst. I know Fox News gets ripped, but I really thought it had the fairest and best coverage of the night. The even better thing about it were they never took themselves too seriously. Again, I think the complaints about Fox News are more of a perception versus reality thing. Link to post Share on other sites
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