TCP Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 An important note from last night's Wilco concert regarding (potentially) this thread, courtesy bbop:Perhaps the funniest bit from Jeff, though, came midway through the main set when went he went on a mini-rant about people ranking albums and the like (has he been reading that rather annoying thread in another section of this forum, I wonder?) At any rate, unprompted, he thought aloud: "Why do people rank records? It's like ranking friends. ... You meet a new person and say, 'This guy's way better than the guy you grew up with.' Just think about it and submit some writing to our Web site if you want to pursue the analogy." Jeff then went on to jokingly equate ranking records to ranking Monet paintings, quipping, "Waterlillies? Meh." Based off that I will now update my Wilco album standings to a 10 way tie between AM, Being There, Summerteeth, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, A Ghost Is Born, Sky Blue Sky, Wilco (The Album), The Whole Love, Star Wars, and Schmilco. ALL RECORDS ARE EQUAL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albert Tatlock Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 But some records are more equal than others. And as for double albums on vinyl, 4 sides good, 2 sides bad! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 He really shouldn't read this shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
randomname Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Perhaps the funniest bit from Jeff, though, came midway through the main set when went he went on a mini-rant about people ranking albums and the like (has he been reading that rather annoying thread in another section of this forum, I wonder?) At any rate, unprompted, he thought aloud: "Why do people rank records? It's like ranking friends. ... You meet a new person and say, 'This guy's way better than the guy you grew up with.' Just think about it and submit some writing to our Web site if you want to pursue the analogy." Jeff then went on to jokingly equate ranking records to ranking Monet paintings, quipping, "Waterlillies? Meh." Now I feel bad for participating in this thread. As atonement, I have compiled the list below: 1. Water-Lilies, Reflection of a Weeping Willow2. Water-Lilies and Agapanthus3. Yellow and Lilac Water-Lilies4. Water-Lilies (study)5. The Water-Lily Pond and Bridge6. The Bridge over the Water-Lily Pond7. Water-Lily Pond, Water Irises8. Water-Lily Pond, Symphony in Rose9. The Water-Lily Pond (also known as Japanese Bridge)10. Water-Lilies, Evening Effect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Skujelo Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Maybe slightly off topic, but I just listened to Sky Blue Sky for the first time in a very long time, and I'm floored. It's beautiful. I must rank it much higher than I previously did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kicking Television Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 1) A Ghost is Born 2) Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 3) Being There 4) Summerteeth 5) Schmilco 6) Sky Blue Sky 7) Star Wars 8) The Whole Love 9) A.M 10) Wilco (The Album) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Maybe slightly off topic, but I just listened to Sky Blue Sky for the first time in a very long time, and I'm floored. It's beautiful. I must rank it much higher than I previously did. I know, right? The title song knocks me off my feet every time. But I don't know how you guys can rank the albums...to me it'd be like ranking animals, they're all a bit too different to compare: Uh..... tigerhorse doggiraffehamsterelephantcatlioncowshark and I know I left some out! Oh, oh! Goat has to be in there somewhere...maybe about halfway even...and raccoon is really good, too.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I know, right? The title song knocks me off my feet every time. But I don't know how you guys can rank the albums...to me it'd be like ranking animals, they're all a bit too different to compare: Uh..... tigerhorse doggiraffehamsterelephantcatlioncowshark and I know I left some out! Oh, oh! Goat has to be in there somewhere...maybe about halfway even...and raccoon is really good, too.... Barry disagrees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbray Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I know, right? The title song knocks me off my feet every time. But I don't know how you guys can rank the albums...to me it'd be like ranking animals, they're all a bit too different to compare:I mean it's different for everybody, for me it's about ranking the emotional impact or connection I have to the records. I don't rank them for quality. I'm sure there are people who rank them similarly or even to show their distaste but everybody is entitled to their opinions and reasons, I guess. I'd also say that's why you see a lot of people posting about tiers of their preferences instead of hard lists. If I let you know that I listened to A.M. five or six times in the month of September so far alone, what does that say about how little the list really means, you know? Here is my incomplete list (Schmilco is too new for me): AGIBYHFSBSSW \ST | - Sch. (Somewhere in this grouping) BT | tWL /AMWtA Maybe slightly off topic, but I just listened to Sky Blue Sky for the first time in a very long time, and I'm floored. It's beautiful. I must rank it much higher than I previously did.One day, I believe this record will get the due it deserves. It's a beautiful record with an awful lot of lyrical depth and emotional nuance. I'd say it's the most unique record in the catalog at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonicshoulder Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Barry disagrees. This picture contains compact discs, a corded telephone and an ash tray....ahhhh the good old days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Skujelo Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I mean it's different for everybody, for me it's about ranking the emotional impact or connection I have to the records. I don't rank them for quality. I'm sure there are people who rank them similarly or even to show their distaste but everybody is entitled to their opinions and reasons, I guess. I'd also say that's why you see a lot of people posting about tiers of their preferences instead of hard lists. If I let you know that I listened to A.M. five or six times in the month of September so far alone, what does that say about how little the list really means, you know? Here is my incomplete list (Schmilco is too new for me): AGIBYHFSBSSW \ST | - Sch. (Somewhere in this grouping) BT | tWL /AMWtA One day, I believe this record will get the due it deserves. It's a beautiful record with an awful lot of lyrical depth and emotional nuance. I'd say it's the most unique record in the catalog at this point. I'm sure it has been said many times, but after YHF and AGIB I think many were disappointed that Tweedy scaled back the sonic canvas in favour of something more simple and direct, and this was seen as something "lesser". I will admit to being in this camp, but years later I'm discovering that "simpler" can be "better" when the songs are this good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 This picture contains compact discs, a corded telephone and an ash tray....ahhhh the good old days.Back when the dis "that's a Cosby sweater" invoked well-placed nostalgia instead of trauma. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a-me-with-a-you Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 I'm sure it has been said many times, but after YHF and AGIB I think many were disappointed that Tweedy scaled back the sonic canvas in favour of something more simple and direct, and this was seen as something "lesser". I will admit to being in this camp, but years later I'm discovering that "simpler" can be "better" when the songs are this good. I tend to respect that they just had two experimental-ish albums in them, better this way than to see the ghosts of that quality in a third/fourth experimental album. They had something to say/express and they accomplished that, end of story. Concerning simple or complex songs, I go back and forth on my preference, both in the Wilco catalogue and on a larger scale. I'm in the camp of the layered ones lately, therefore my album order is: Yankee Hotel FoxtrotA Ghost is Born (gap in quality) SummerteethBeing ThereSky Blue SkyThe Whole Love (gap in quality) Wilco (The Album) (gap in quality) A.M. I fully realize The Whole Love is a better album than Sky Blue Sky but it don't have as much of a personal connection to it, the time it came into my life, the significant times I spent listening to it. I'm nearing 30 now and back in 2007 I felt everything a little deeper it seems, I guess this is close to everyone else's experience, more stability but less intensity. Note 2: I love all of these albums above of course. Schmilco's too recent to include and I'm having a really hard time finding motivation to explore Star Wars... I've really fallen for You Satellite so I have a tiny bit of hope the rest of the album will follow. I've tried several times and got discouraged. How do people generally rank the songs on that album? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Schmilco's too recent to include and I'm having a really hard time finding motivation to explore Star Wars... I've really fallen for You Satellite so I have a tiny bit of hope the rest of the album will follow. I've tried several times and got discouraged. How do people generally rank the songs on that album?If Random Name Generator doesn't inspire you to explore you can probably hang it up. That song feels like a single and a mission statement for the record to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a-me-with-a-you Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 If Random Name Generator doesn't inspire you to explore you can probably hang it up. That song feels like a single and a mission statement for the record to me. I didn't like that one until I found the version of the Pitchfork Music Festival in 2015, now I'm leaning towards thumbs up for that one. Actually, because of how soft Schmilco's sound was I grabbed back to Star Wars for the first time in months and months, remembering I disliked it on first listen but also thought it was an edgy, interesting try. I don't want to be 'that guy' who's always dissing new albums because he doesn't have the capacity to evolve, but on the other hand, how come I loved the Whole Love on first listen, you know? Edit: okay, I'd like to change my order to bump up Summerteeth to second place above AGIB. Yankee Hotel FoxtrotSummerteethA Ghost is BornBeing There (gap in quality) Sky Blue SkyThe Whole Love (gap in quality) Wilco (The Album) (gap in quality) A.M. Basically in no particular order. In other words, this could also read: 01. YHF/ ST/ AGIB/ BT02. SBS/ TWL03. WTA04. A.M. I have over 5000 plays of them and I appreciate nearly the whole discography deeply and still think it's quite clear YHF is their best album and I think it's a little typical of a fan forum to declare another album above it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WilcoTheologian Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 So here is my list, and I am sure people will definitely disagree with my order haha. But I have arranged them in order of replay ability. At least to my ears. So the number one album is the most played, while the number 10 is the album I have the most trouble playing on a whim. I love every Wilco album, I just prefer a record that I can digest in one sitting, or on a car ride. So that's me! Here is my list, 1 being my favorite, and 10 being my least favorite (which is still epic cause it's Wilco. Duh.) 1. Being There ( I listen to this album the most often for sure. I get in the car, realize I want to hear Wilco, and easily select this as my first option. I love every song, and know that a lot of fans agree! Since most Wilco concerts I've been to get a rousing cheer for any song off this album.) 2. A Ghost is Born (I do not listen to this album as much as the other top 5 on this list. But I just love it so much. From Hell is Chrome to The Late Greats, this album is my brain performed by Wilco. Good for the days I just want to sit down and digest a complex record.) 3. Schmilco (On the first listen I was not that excited. But after a week of listening to this album it quickly moved up my list. I love early Wilco, but this album is definitely an incredible work of art. I did not like sukierae too much, so I feel like Schmilco is the album I wished sukierae would have been.) 4. Star Wars ( Once again I did not really like this album on the first listen. It was so unWilco to me. But after a year this album is go to road trip music for me. I can lsiten to it over and over without getting tired of it. Plus it's the only album all of my nonWilco fan friends enjoy.) 5. A.M. ( I am always surprised when People list this album so low. I love A.M. so much! I used to not though. I was not a country guy, and I'm still not. But over the years I have enjoyed folk music more and more, so this album grown on me!) 6. The Whole Love ( I do not listen to this album often, but when I do it is epic! The first Wilco show I ever went to was for this tour, and that show hooked me imedietly. I love this album, especially when the pull out these songs in concert! Art of Almost is my Oh Yeah! Concert moment.) 7. Wilco The Album (My dad had been a Wilco fan forever. I was never into them, or really never gave them a chance. So when I was at the library I saw this on the new relases rack and grabbed it for my dad. Of course I fell in love with Wilco that night and have enjoyed it ever since.) 8. Sky Blue Sky ( This is probably my least listened to album. I enjoy it, but after awhile I wonder is this still playing? Still a great album, but not my go to for sure.) 9. Summerteeth (Feels a bit dated to me. But my sister loves this album. Maybe that is why I never listen to it haha.) 10. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (This album probably suffers from hype syndrome for me. I enjoyed it the first time around, and love Jesus Etc. Probably my favorite song. But I just never listen to it. It's too noisy and in your face for me. I love the songs live, but have trouble getting through the album. I am probably the only Wilco fan to think this way! Haha) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a-me-with-a-you Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Okay WilcoTheologian, that's a fresh take Orders are gonna differ but as for me, I save up play time of my favorite albums, the more I play it, the more I wear the songs out and after a while they stop surprising me and that makes me sad. YHF is far from my most played Wilco record just because I like it so much. Btw: you do realize Summerteeth's retro sound is intentional? It's a love letter to the Beach Boys era. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mus2009 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I've been listening to Sky Blue Sky as fall kicks into gear, and this album has continued to grow on me nearly a decade later with how simply honest & beautiful it is. For whatever reason "Leave Me (Like You Found Me)" has hit me hard on this recent round of spinning SBS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Skujelo Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Yeah, I've been on a massive WILCO kick lately, and SBS just keeps getting better and better to my ears. Strangely, AGIB is starting to slide to mid pack. AGIB has many wonderful songs, but it also has excess, which is something WILCO is rarely guilty of. On a slight side note, I just received all four Uncle Tupelo albums (2003 editions, Legacy edition for No Depression). I can't wait to hear how they "fit" into this epic story. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 That's nice. Although it must be a weird trip to go backwards. Now you need some Son Volt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 The ones with Jay Bennett are better than the ones without Jay Bennett. Of the albums without Jay Bennett, the one with Brian Henneman is better than the ones without Brian Henneman, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 The ones with Jay Bennett are better than the ones without Jay Bennett. Of the albums without Jay Bennett, the one with Brian Henneman is better than the ones without Brian Henneman,A.M. is better than AGIB? Depends on the day for me. Today, having spun AGIB only vinyl for the first time in a long while, I'm not sure there's a better record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Skujelo Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Man, this is so hard to do, and it changes every month. FUCK I love Wilco!! This month: 1. YHF2. Summerteeth3. SBS4. TWL5. Schmilco6. Star wars7. AGIB8. WTA9. BT10. AM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaydreamNation Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 1. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot2. Being There3. A Ghost Is Born 4. Summerteeth5. The Whole Love6. Sky Blue Sky 7. A.M.8. Schmilco9. Star Wars10. Wilco (The Album) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle Skujelo Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 On a slight side note, I just received all four Uncle Tupelo albums (2003 editions, Legacy edition for No Depression). I can't wait to hear how they "fit" into this epic story. Forgive me, for I know this is somewhat off-topic, but I am having a hard time finding the Uncle Tupelo thread. Wow, UT was good! The first album burst right out of the gate on a very high note. I really admire the Peter Buck produced 3rd album. I'm surprised to find that Anodyne, of all their albums, ie the Major Label Debut, The One That Was Supposed To Hit It, is the hands down weakling of the 4, to my ears. No Sense In Lovin' must be the worst song that Tweedy has ever put his lips to. There is something seriously lacking in Anodyne that was present in the other 3. IMHO A.M. continues on this unfortunate path. It sounds rushed and half baked to me. But Being There is the great leap forward. Wilco really begins with BT. On another note, I still cannot grasp how great YHF is. The older I get, the more this monumental album grips my brain. Wilco have done wonderful things over the last 15 years, but there was a special magic with YHF which may never be recaptured. All the stars aligned. It's otherworldly. I think Tweedy knows this, and he purposely tries not to emulate it in any way, shape or form. What Wilco does now is wonderful (I love SW and Schmilco), but it is a different thing than YHF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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