Bart Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I'd have to say IWTYH was probably my least favorite GD song EVER. Sorry, Brent. I was there for the first version and it might have been the biggest WTF? moment in my touring career. I wasn't a fan either, but at least Brent could sing! If you're looking for the lowest of the low, look no further Phil Lesh. I love him on the bass, but as a singer and songwriter, he's less talented than me! And I'm awful!! Exhibit A, B and C: Wave To The Wind Childhood's End If The Shoe Fits Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I wasn't a fan either, but at least Brent could sing! If you're looking for the lowest of the low, look no further Phil Lesh. I love him on the bass, as a singer and songwriter, he's less talented than me! And I'm awful!! Exhibit A, B and C: Wave To The WindChildhood's EndIf The Shoe FitsThose are bad, but Phil gets a lifetime pass because of Box of Rain and Unbroken Chain. Also, Passenger and Pride of Cucomonga, and his co-writing on tracks like St. Stephen, Truckin', probably some other doozies. Always hated IWTYH, but then found this cover version online, just bass and vocal. Really dig it, maybe because I have two young daughters: https://youtu.be/DibFt4L3z-I Also, here is 20 seconds of Jerry Garcia laughing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DXfwUN9M8k Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I loved Eternity. eternity, Liberty 1st set closer was fun. I also thought Phil's tunes were good. It was just cool to see him writing and singing more. He hadn't really done any songs since Mars Hotel. Unbroken is one of my top 5. I found Days Between to be a bit tedious. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I don't mind the version with Willie Dixon taking the vocals (he co-wrote it with Weir) but it falls flat (for me) listening to Weir sing it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G35subqlRo Always dug "Liberty" and agree on Days Between. I know the tune is full of juicy imagery and that a lot of fans have a soft spot for it, but it doesn't do much for me.... Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Always felt Days Between would have grown into a monster Garcia second set tune, along the lines of Dew. It was pretty much close to there for me anyway, saw a couple of killer versions, must have been Boston and Albany. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 IWTYH came out during the years I was off the Dead bus. My own days between. When I first heard it, thought I was listening to a Michael McDonald song. That is not a good thing. I also missed the years of Day Job. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I would rank Days Between up there with Wharf Rat and Terrapin as Garcia and Hunter's greatest masterpieces. McNally recently wrote a retrospective article on the Dead in relation to the Fare thee Well shows. Included a deep discussion on Days Between's genius and origins. Love the lyrics and imagery, and the music is so intense and unique, unlike anything Garcia had written in years, if ever. Particularly the last 15 years or so, when he was just rewriting folk and blues tunes. I guess there are some people that prefer Believe it or Not or If I Had the World to Give... Never heard that version of Eternity with Willie Dixon before. Nice. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Only version of Eternity I've ever listened to is Ratdog on 8/9/95. It's powerful...like most of that show. Link to post Share on other sites
HungryHippo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Just listened to Samba for the first time this morning. I finally have technology that allows me to access archive.org and this is what I go to... Just kidding, it wasn't all that bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I don't mind the version with Willie Dixon taking the vocals (he co-wrote it with Weir) but it falls flat (for me) listening to Weir sing it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G35subqlRo Always dug "Liberty" and agree on Days Between. I know the tune is full of juicy imagery and that a lot of fans have a soft spot for it, but it doesn't do much for me.... I remember when Days was introduced people were calling it the new Terrapin :-PJust listened to Samba for the first time this morning. I finally have technology that allows me to access archive.org and this is what I go to... Just kidding, it wasn't all that bad. Welcome to the 21st century…regurgitated rhetoric and Vince Welnick Grateful Dead songs on demand. Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 This is always pleasant to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWQFZ7Lx-rg Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Days Between was the last of the big Jerry ballad's they played at the Chicago Fare Thee Well shows, 4th to last song. Tough to hear Bob's overbite on it, but the placement would indicate they hold it in high regard. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 This is always pleasant to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWQFZ7Lx-rg That is awesome. Anyone know how Garcia and Bob got such clear, simple sounds out of their guitars? I play lead in a Dead cover band and it's next to impossible to get volume and clear tone etc. No head room, if that makes sense. Jerry and Bob always sounded like their guitars really weren't amplified, if that makes sense. Just a clean, pure sound. Incidentally, I was watching a vid of Trey on Charlie Rose and he was talking about how he was amazed at how the audience was totally focused on Garcia at shows. It's amazing to me too, given that there was no real gimmick. Just simple, clean, fluid notes. And, excellent songs, of course. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 This is always pleasant to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWQFZ7Lx-rg Is this from Disc 2 in the Grateful Dead Movie DVD - I haven't watched it in awhile, but it looks like it. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Anyone know how Garcia and Bob got such clear, simple sounds out of their guitars? I play lead in a Dead cover band and it's next to impossible to get volume and clear tone etc. No head room, if that makes sense. Jerry and Bob always sounded like their guitars really weren't amplified, if that makes sense. Just a clean, pure sound. Not sure if you read the Grateful Dead Gear book - but I bet the above is discussed in the book. Obviously the Dead spent a shit ton on gear --- of course it all starts with the musician, but I am guessing having great gear helps immensely. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 That is awesome. Anyone know how Garcia and Bob got such clear, simple sounds out of their guitars? I play lead in a Dead cover band and it's next to impossible to get volume and clear tone etc. No head room, if that makes sense. Jerry and Bob always sounded like their guitars really weren't amplified, if that makes sense. Just a clean, pure sound. Incidentally, I was watching a vid of Trey on Charlie Rose and he was talking about how he was amazed at how the audience was totally focused on Garcia at shows. It's amazing to me too, given that there was no real gimmick. Just simple, clean, fluid notes. And, excellent songs, of course.I'm not sure that can be explained on a message board. Read up on the Wall of Sound. Bear, Meyer Sound, Alembic, were sonic pioneers. They were innovators in the field, and revolutionized concert sound. Bear's inspiration and insight of course came from hallucinations in which he could see the sound coming out of speakers, and then based his designs based on what he saw. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://www.dozin.com/ The above is a great site on Grateful Dead gear and instruments. Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Bob's overbite Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Thanks for the links. It's amazing how so much equipment and engineering went into such simple, yet awesome sounds. Same goes for Phil. He holds the bottom end, but you can hear the notes clearly among the other instruments. My fake Jerry tone is basically turn treble up, bass down and turn treble down on guitar. Unfortunately, I always end up just cranking everything because I can't hear shit in the band. One main issue is that we have two drummers, two keys, an acoustic rhythm and electric rhythm. It's not my band so I really have no say. But the electric rhythm dude is always so loud! Kind of frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Is this from Disc 2 in the Grateful Dead Movie DVD - I haven't watched it in awhile, but it looks like it. Without going downstairs to check my box, I'm certain it is. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Woke up this morning with "Samba in the Rain" repeating over and over in my head, all the way through shower time and all. Thanks guys. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Lets get down and dirty! Link to post Share on other sites
winterland121072 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Listening to dixpix5 - 26 december 1979...Not bad but not as great as I remembered it... Alabama, promised, UJB, Estimated, Caution, Other One were exceptional... Rest pretty average... Link to post Share on other sites
HungryHippo Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Woke up this morning with "Samba in the Rain" repeating over and over in my head, all the way through shower time and all. Thanks guys. I think I may avoid listening to this song for a second time if I can help it. I just listened to 'Broken Arrow' for the first time from the 30 Trips set and thought it was pretty far removed from all of the GD I am accustomed to. I may have to avoid that song again as well. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I think I may avoid listening to this song for a second time if I can help it. I just listened to 'Broken Arrow' for the first time from the 30 Trips set and thought it was pretty far removed from all of the GD I am accustomed to. I may have to avoid that song again as well.Love Broken Arrow. Maybe you had to be there. Link to post Share on other sites
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