Lammycat Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 This whole deal gets weirder by the day and the ridiculousness of it all is becoming standard, which is the scariest part.http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/index.html Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 This whole deal gets weirder by the day and the ridiculousness of it all is becoming standard, which is the scariest part.http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/index.html That guy actually advises the president? Makes me ill just thinking about it. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 This whole deal gets weirder by the day and the ridiculousness of it all is becoming standard, which is the scariest part.http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/kfile-gorka-on-fake-news/index.html So the chief reason that it is fake news because the incorrectly predicted Brexit and a Trump win? And this than negates everything else they have said or will say? Jesus. The Trump Administration is more like a cult every day. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Jesus f'ing Christ this is repugnant and potentially fatal for the public education system:http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/07/politics/betsy-devos-senate-vote/index.html Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Gotta say I'm surprised no Democrats flipped and voted for Devos. They usually cave. At least that's a win of some sort. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Putin decriminalizes domestic abuse. Any takers on what Trump's response will be, if any? Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 So, what's this I hear about a terrorist attack in Paris? San Bernardino? Orlando? Why are the press refusing to cover these things? // Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Putin decriminalizes domestic abuse. Any takers on what Trump's response will be, if any? "Better than foreign abuse." Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 So the chief reason that it is fake news because the incorrectly predicted Brexit and a Trump win? And this than negates everything else they have said or will say? Jesus. This is hyperbole, but we should be skeptical of a very insular media that has done a very shitty job understanding, reporting, and taking seriously the power of the large number of people who saw Trump as a feasible president. The should be held accountable and a healthy dose of skepticism is always a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 In my unprofessional opinion the blind spot on the polls was voter turnout. Sure the wide majority of voters thought that Trump was unqualified, but not enough of them participated. It wasn't fake news, the data was pretty good. It was the spirit of the thing that they misread. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I don't think they've figured out polling in the cell phone era, either. Fewer polls, more reporters. Of course, that's more expensive and the media is bleeding money. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 This is hyperbole...What is? My statement? The statement by the administration? Your statement? If anything the incorrect polls helped Trump. It kept many away from voting or voting for a third party instead of Clinton. The media has to look at what went wrong and how to fix their polling data. But to use the polling as the reason the news is now fake is stupid and does nothing more to increase the US against them mentality of this administration. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Gotta say I'm surprised no Democrats flipped and voted for Devos. They usually cave. At least that's a win of some sort.She wasn't so much confirmed as she was given a receipt for her purchase. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Credit to the two R's (Murkowski & Collins) who voted against Devos, too. Also, I can't imagine the amount of money that Warren will be up against in her reelection. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 What I can't understand is, why Republicans hate public education so much. Is it the fact that it is taxes? Is it unions? Is it the fact they teach science and facts? Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Educated voters lean left, that's why Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 What I can't understand is, why Republicans hate public education so much. Is it the fact that it is taxes? Is it unions? Is it the fact they teach science and facts?Think about things that the very wealthy don't personally use and you'll have a list of some of their targets. For the most part the wealthy tend to send their kids to private schools, but they pay for both public schools through their taxes and for private school via tuition. If they can get the government to give them back their hard earned cash to use for private school tuition then that's great. It's been part of their rhetoric for years. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 What I can't understand is, why Republicans hate public education so much. Is it the fact that it is taxes? Is it unions? Is it the fact they teach science and facts? Because they believe that the private sector can come up with a better outcomes and that government influence, if any, should occur at the local level and not originating from DC. That's Republicanism 101, and to be fair is not necessarily a bad belief system to have. The problem is that philosophy only works w/rt education in affluent communities and doesn't scale for the nation as a whole. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Because they believe that the private sector can come up with a better outcomes and that government influence, if any, should occur at the local level and not originating from DC. That's Republicanism 101, and to be fair is not necessarily a bad belief system to have. The problem is that philosophy only works w/rt education in affluent communities and doesn't scale for the nation as a whole.And states that are already below the national standards will slip further down the hole. So, again, it works well when/where there is adequate finances to support education, and fails where there isn't. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 And states that are already below the national standards will slip further down the hole. So, again, it works well when/where there is adequate finances to support education, and fails where there isn't. I guess with no immigrants to pick our vegetables, clean our houses and watch our children, some one has got to pick up the slack. Highly educated aren't gonna do that. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Because they believe that the private sector can come up with a better outcomes and that government influence, if any, should occur at the local level and not originating from DC. That's Republicanism 101, and to be fair is not necessarily a bad belief system to have. The problem is that philosophy only works w/rt education in affluent communities and doesn't scale for the nation as a whole.Local control is often for the better, although sometimes it's a Trojan horse for cutting federal funding for programs. I have a more negative response to the rampant idea that public things should be run like businesses. When a business goes down the owners and investors stand to lose, but they chose it. When a public institution goes down people who rely on it get screwed. This doesn't begin to examine the differences in what the measures of success are for each. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 What is? My statement? The statement by the administration? Your statement? The administration. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 even Drudge isn't a fan: http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/08/media/matt-drudge-republican-party/index.html?sr=twCNN020917matt-drudge-republican-party1223AMStoryLink&linkId=34286685 Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I have a more negative response to the rampant idea that public things should be run like businesses. When a business goes down the owners and investors stand to lose, but they chose it. When a public institution goes down people who rely on it get screwed. Good point. I never hear it put that way. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 The Iowa legislature is set to strip public employees of most collective bargaining rights following the course set by Governor Scott Walker and the state of Wisconsin a few years back. Fuck 'em. Link to post Share on other sites
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