Orkie Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I couldn't disagree more even if there were vast sums of money involved as a motivating factor. I think the band's growth is strikingly evident, especially with regards to Jack's phrasing, which was exceptional on Get Behind Me Satan. The old-timey piano ballads and concept songs like "Take Take Take" are a far cry from the prototypical Dee-troyt rock of their first record. And I'm glad for that. Yeah see the problem with that is good bands grow while *also* writing memorable songs. Becoming a better musican over time is great if you want to be a session guy. But without the songs, it's actually a decline. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Uh, "Take Take Take" is a great example of a song that sticks with me long after I take the proverbial needle off the wax. White manages more than just the tricky time changes that have already been mentioned - he also manages to make a comment, and he does so in the most anachronistic way imaginable. Depending on what you feel like reading into it, "Take" is either a song about the way society at large tends to dehumanize anybody in the public eye, or it's a comment on how enough is rarely ever enough. The other songs on Get Behind Me Satan are a gas too, from the small clutch of typical Stripes blooze-rockers to the piano songs like "My Doorbell," which is almost defiantly catchy in spite of its simple instrumentation, and the closer, which I swear - and I know a lot of people disagree - is the best thing White's ever written. That track could have been recorded in 1928 and no one would know the difference. Anyway, Satan is my favourite Stripes record, and it's a shame you don't like it. Especially since their debut is really sort of boring and standard. To each their own, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Yeah see the problem with that is good bands grow while *also* writing memorable songs. Becoming a better musican over time is great if you want to be a session guy. But without the songs, it's actually a decline. How can you say "The Denial Twist", or "My Doorbell", "Blue Orchid", "As Ugly As I seem", "Lonely, but I Ain't That Lonely Yet", or pretty much any song on that album besides "The Nurse" isn't memorable? The whole damn thing is catchy, practically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Blue Orchid is awful sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 What?! Blue Orchid is as good as any of their other singles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I dig 'Blue Orchid.' It's a blast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 What?! Blue Orchid is as good as any of their other singles.oof, not for me... sorry... to me it screamed "hey, the label wants a single, so let's throw that song on the album to appease them"i hated Jack's voice on it (his voice actually annoys me fairly often when it gets all high and whiney) not to mention the lyrics are just abysmal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Blue Orchid isn't one of the songs I think of when I think of the Stripes, but I like it. And The Nurse may not be overly memorable on the disc, but it's a highlight live. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 And The Nurse may not be overly memorable on the disc, but it's a highlight live.Definitely. Although I'm thinking the marimba might be left behind on the next tour. As for Blue Orchid, I could take it or leave it...but I love Get Behind me Satan as a whole, and I completely disagree about Jack's songwriting going downhill. Lyrically, GBMS is my favorite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 i don't think his songwriting has gone downhill at all, just The White Stripes albums for me give me the Raconteurs album (even though it could have been a lot better) over the last 2 Stripes records anyday. then again, i've been a Brendan Benson fanboy long before i heard of The White Stripes really hope I like this new one though... from the descriptions really hard to say, but at least my expectations are pretty low Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 give me the Raconteurs album (even though it could have been a lot better) over the last 2 Stripes records anyday. then again, i've been a Brendan Benson fanboy long before i heard of The White Stripes from http://www.therockradio.com/2007/04/white-...ad-in-july.html: White Stripes hitting road in JulyThe White Stripes will hit the road this July in the U.S., according to a source at Warner Bros. Records, with tentative plans to play the 16 states that the duo has not yet performed in. Exact dates and venues are yet to be announced, but the group will play cities in places like Montana and Alaska, with the source saying, "They're doing this one for the fans." Following that run, frontman Jack White will take the month of August off to be home for the arrival of his second child with wife Karen Elson, which is due in late July or early August. The Stripes will resume touring in the fall, returning to the bigger, more frequently visited markets. The Stripes will be supporting their sixth album, Icky Thump, which is due out on June 19th through Warner Bros. Based on hearing six songs, the album is a return to the bluesy, heavily guitar-drenched sound of the band's earlier records, with the usual White Stripes twists. We have also exclusively learned that Jack White went into the studio last week to begin recording the second album from his other band, the Raconteurs. The follow-up to last year's debut, Broken Boy Soldiers, will probably surface sometime next year on a yet-to-be-determined label. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Any idea what these 16 un-played states might be? In the midwest, I'm guessing Iowa or Arkansas or Nebraska....? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 The best guess has been: AlabamaAlaskaConnecticutDelawareHawaiiIdahoIowaMaineMississippiNebraskaNew MexicoSouth CarolinaSouth DakotaUtahVermontWyoming But apparently that list isn't completely accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orkie Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 How can you say "The Denial Twist", or "My Doorbell", "Blue Orchid", "As Ugly As I seem", "Lonely, but I Ain't That Lonely Yet", or pretty much any song on that album besides "The Nurse" isn't memorable? The whole damn thing is catchy, practically. None of those are really memorable songs, especially Blue Orchid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Icky's album art is much better than Satan's, which obviously means it's going to be a better album. I kind of dig all the WS albums the same, with De Stijl poking it's head above the rest because it seems the most unified. Typically, I find their albums to be more of a collection of songs, I can start and stop anywhere (mostly I stop on Elephant after "Hardest Button"). Satan is probably the worst or best case of this idea, I like all the songs, but Blue Orchid sounds like it's starting an entirely different record, and i kind of forget that some of the slower ballads exist in there because there are quite a few. But that's not a complaint, it's the way a band like the WS should make albums. Today, I think Jack and Meg have become superhumans. Jack seems like he's on a creative high now that he has the Raconteurs, and while Meg's drumming has always been a joke to some people, I think she's become increasingly skillful and intuitive to what Jack's songs require. Also, I might be a sucker for the marimba, but I like "The Nurse". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 GBMS isn't cohesive at all, and I think that that was the reason it took me a little longer to get into than the Stripes' other albums, but song-for-song it's as good as anything they've done. I have it at #2 overall behind De Stijl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 None of those are really memorable songs, especially Blue Orchid. So what is memorable to you? "Pretty Good Looking"? "Fell In Love With A Girl"? What are we looking for here? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Get Behind Me Satan is my favorite album, as a whole.Same here... I've never really understood the tepid response to GBMS. I suppose some of it is a byproduct of the inevitable Jack White backlash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orkie Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 So what is memorable to you? "Pretty Good Looking"? "Fell In Love With A Girl"? What are we looking for here? Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground. Zeppelin would fill entire albums with songs like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Dead Leaves and the Dirty Ground. Zeppelin would fill entire albums with songs like that. Jack White was the bassist for Zeppelin, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Listened to a few tunes off of GBMS on the way to work this a.m., and yep, I still like it. "Blue Orchid" isn't my favorite on the album, but I don't skip it when it comes on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 I have a feeling I'm about to get on another White Stripes kick pretty soon. I haven't listened to them much over the past couple of years but this thread is getting songs stuck in my head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nicburto Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 so at least one song is being released tonight - more to come, i'm sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kicking_Television Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 so at least one song is being released tonight - more to come, i'm sure. yay Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 just heard the title track on the radio! it's pretty sweet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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