Analogman Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I guess if you keep trying to run Obama against Palin, maybe it will come true. But to say any of those above things are worse than Obama's associations throughout his life and career is to stick your head in the sand and ignore the obvious. And what would that be? Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 It is valid to know how a candidate gets his or her news. They should be getting news from a variety of sources so they can make independent judgments, and won't be subject to adopting whatever position is fed to them by those around them. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Yeah without even trying I could be interviewed and think...... hmmmm, what sounds good? The Economist Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 It is valid to know how a candidate gets his or her news. They should be getting news from a variety of sources so they can make independent judgments, and won't be subject to adopting whatever position is fed to them by those around them. she reads all of them. Every newspaper and magazine. what part of that don't you understand? Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 she reads all of them. Every newspaper and magazine. what part of that don't you understand? He must think Alaska's some kind of foreign country or something. Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Alaska is a state? Who knew? Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 You know how sometimes one dislikes a musical artist's fans more than that artist? I think some of that (I still recognize the disdain of the candidate herself) is in play with the criticism of palin. I think it frightens a lot of you that so many americans agree with her points of view. No? Just wondering. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I think it frightens a lot of you that so many americans agree with her points of view. No? Just wondering. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 You know how sometimes one dislikes a musical artist's fans more than that artist? I think some of that (I still recognize the disdain of the candidate herself) is in play with the criticism of palin. I think it frightens a lot of you that so many americans agree with her points of view. No? Just wondering.Well, yes. her fans frighten me because they cannot tell me why they like her. I appreciate that she's a looker, and she's probably incredibly capable, i mean I couldn't shoot and gut a moose, I can't even change a tire, but i bet she can. I am willing to bet there are a lot of things about her that are actually quite appealing and able to do all kinds of stuff, that no one even knows about because she instead is being trotted out for a position she is in no way qualified for and yet her fans cannot tell us why she is qualified. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well, yes. her fans frighten me because they cannot tell me why they like her. I appreciate that she's a looker, and she's probably incredibly capable, i mean I couldn't shoot and gut a moose, I can't even change a tire, but i bet she can. I am willing to bet there are a lot of things about her that are actually quite appealing and able to do all kinds of stuff, that no one even knows about because she instead is being trotted out for a position she is in no way qualified for and yet her fans cannot tell us why she is qualified. Because it turns out that she isn't. I bet it would be hard to find too many fans at this point. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 You know how sometimes one dislikes a musical artist's fans more than that artist? I think some of that (I still recognize the disdain of the candidate herself) is in play with the criticism of palin. I think it frightens a lot of you that so many americans agree with her points of view. No? Just wondering. yes, very frightening, though the number of americans thinking she'd make a good v.p., for whatever reason, seems to be dwindling. this could be a reason to celebrate americans' ability to eventually choose even slightly longer-term evaluation over love at first sight, at least when it comes to basic leadership. we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 2, 2008 Author Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well, you knew it had to happen, here we have the right manufacturing a controversy that will surely be used to dampen the damage Palin will undoubtedly do the GOP ticket tomorrow night - any and all failures on her part will be placed squarely on the moderator, Gwen Ifill. So fucking sad and predictable. The irony is, is that in all likelihood, Ifill will be a bit more forceful with Biden to make up for any imagined liberal bias - Ifill is a consummate pro. Controversy brews up around VP debate moderator Ifill http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/01/gwen.ifill/index.html Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Of course, if the moderator were from Foxnews, the Democrats would just skip the debate. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Of course, if the moderator were from Foxnews, the Democrats would just skip the debate. Well, you'd think that since the moderator has been in place since August, that the GOP could have done a better scouting job than Matt Millen. Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Absolutely. amen Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Well, you knew it had to happen, here we have the right manufacturing a controversy that will surely be used to dampen the damage Palin will undoubtedly do the GOP ticket tomorrow night - any and all failures on her part will be placed squarely on the moderator, Gwen Ifill. So fucking sad and predictable. The irony is, is that in all likelihood, Ifill will be a bit more forceful with Biden to make up for any imagined liberal bias - Ifill is a consummate pro. Controversy brews up around VP debate moderator Ifill http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/01/gwen.ifill/index.html hollow controversy. all they have to do is sit back, let others stick their necks out, and then poke with sticks. sort of like so-called "debate" that takes place on some message boards. Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Also, it's official, I'm moving into Vermont. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Also, it's official, I'm moving into defecting to Vermont. Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 exactly Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Last time I was in that state, there were a bunch of stickers up: "Ban Corporate Snowboarding." Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Ifill is a consummate pro. This is 1000% true. I am sure she will do just fine. Right wing conspiracy theorists will have little/nothing to hang their hats on. I mean, she isn't going to answer the questions (which are heavily scripted I wager) for Palin. Gov Palin will get to do that all by herself. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 any lawyers who still vote for McCain/Palin after this comment should be banned from practicing law: i'm no lawyer either, but can name at minimum 5-10 big surpreme court cases... Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm just so pleased that I might have made a point in this thread (I do not support palin, just for clarification) But I do think the point I made is valid. I once enjoyed dave matthews when I was in college and he was a nobody. Now I refuse to go to his shows in part because of his recordings but mostly because of the fans I would have to endure. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 to answer the point about "all of Palin's fans"... i liked Pogs at one point in my life too... Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 I'm just so pleased that I might have made a point in this thread (I do not support palin, just for clarification) But I do think the point I made is valid. I once enjoyed dave matthews when I was in college and he was a nobody. Now I refuse to go to his shows in part because of his recordings but mostly because of the fans I would have to endure.i'm getting confused. is this the election thread or the red sox i mean baseball playoffs thread? Link to post Share on other sites
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