u2roolz Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I'm still sticking with my Elton John & Billy Joel prediction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Does a great guitarist lose talent over time? I don't know. Who gives a shit what he's wearing, though? It's Pete Townshend. A guy his age trying too hard to look cool? This is a man who used to wear a white body suit on stage.... Boiler Suit John Bonham did also. That was due to A Clockwork Orange. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Who gives a shit what he's wearing, though? I know! I find a hard time believing Mick Jagger's striped jumpsuits were that much more in style than his current get-up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Except for the universal truth that no one has ever topped Prince. Petty was the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nodep5 Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Does a great guitarist lose talent over time? I don't know. Who gives a shit what he's wearing, though? It's Pete Townshend. A guy his age trying too hard to look cool? This is a man who used to wear a white body suit on stage.... I admit a lot of this is superficial for me, but it is part of the whole package. I'll be upfront that image, album art etc play a role in how much I dig someone, with the music being first and foremost and primary. So for me it matters a little and I respect those who can look past it. As far as the music, I do think the talent erodes over time for most musicians. No one can argue that vocally last night was short of good. I think Roger Daltry sounded decent, but Pete's voice was shot or is shot. As far as the chops on the instrument, I think Pete can replicate past glory in a technical manner, but I would assume his creativity tank is empty. If we just look at music alone, how many of these aging acts are getting close to past creative peaks. And I personally won't agree with the Bob Dylan arguement if it is posed as an example. I think Dylan gets a free pass with critics and no matter how good recent albums have been they pale by miles to Blonde on Blonde for example Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Petty was the best. I actually missed his, so I can't say for myself. I should check it out somewhere. I like Petty.Sidenote - I happened upon Petty and his wife shopping (them, not me) on Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills about 8 years back. I'm proud I had the presence of mind to point and say "Hey, Charlie T. Jnr!" as we crossed paths, but he was not interested in me at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I just can't think of him as anything but a parody of himself. I can't stand any of his solo work, and I can barely stomach what he did with Wings. The live stuff I've seen has had abysmal arrangements, and I just find the whole thing to be a cross between lackluster and just silly.Fair enough. Though, I'm never quite sure what the meaning of "parody of himself" means - that particular phrase seems like a cop-out and has become a cliche. When I think of a parody of McCartney, all I can think of is this Spitting Image sketch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5zA-EogJMc McCartney seems too earnest to me to be projecting any image but himself, aged. He's never been hip or edgy, and he's always had those always-arched, surprised-look eyebrows. I'm not the biggest Paul-solo fan myself, and I would admit that my enjoyment of his show is influenced by my worship of the Beatles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Though, I'm never quite sure what the meaning of "parody of himself" means - that particular phrase seems like a cop-out and has become a cliche. I personally mean it in regards to the fact that I think he honestly believes his solo work continues to advance his career - I don't think he gets that if he played a show of post-Flaming Pie material only, it would be worse than a lot of mediocre bands today and likely have huge troubles selling out arenas if advertised as such. I don't really have any problem with older bands continuing to tour solely based on their old material, but when they think their new material is worth a fart, then I think they're just lying to themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I personally mean it in regards to the fact that I think he honestly believes his solo work continues to advance his career - I don't think he gets that if he played a show of post-Flaming Pie material only, it would be worse than a lot of mediocre bands today and likely have huge troubles selling out arenas if advertised as such. I don't really have any problem with older bands continuing to tour solely based on their old material, but when they think their new material is worth a fart, then I think they're just lying to themselves. So he believes it, or he doesn't? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I'd rather see a musician honestly believe their new stuff is worthwhile than to play it on stage and give off an "I only released this to get a paycheck" vibe. Even if they're way off, and the new stuff sucks, the enthusiasm is good to see. I don't see how you can hold an artist's excitement about their new wrk against them. It's only natural, really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 So he believes it, or he doesn't? Since when are lies something people tell themselves to NOT believe them? I don't see anything inconsistent with my remarks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I personally mean it in regards to the fact that I think he honestly believes his solo work continues to advance his career - I don't think he gets that if he played a show of post-Flaming Pie material only, it would be worse than a lot of mediocre bands today and likely have huge troubles selling out arenas if advertised as such. I don't really have any problem with older bands continuing to tour solely based on their old material, but when they think their new material is worth a fart, then I think they're just lying to themselves.Well that's the balance that every artist has to strike, no? They know they're being counted on to play the HITS, even if the artist is only interested in the newer material. They know it's the hits that pays the bills. Scorsese once said something about this - saying that because he has to work with the studios, he has to kowtow to them every once in a while, so that they'll loosen the reigns and give him artistic freedom. He says he tries to alternate with every other movie: one for "them" and one for himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Since when are lies something people tell themselves to NOT believe them? I don't see anything inconsistent with my remarks. Yeah me neither actually, upon rereading. Man, and all that energy I used up with bolding & resizing the font. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Yeah me neither actually, upon rereading. Man, and all that energy I used up with bolding & resizing the font. Don't worry - about an hour after I originally posted my reply, I realized I had written, "I don't see anything consistent with my remarks." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I wouldn't mind seeing a show made up of post-Flaming Pie stuff with his current band. His last two albums have been very solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Artifice Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I'll just settle for indie rock in damn near every commercial... Arcade Fire, Grizzly Bear... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I thought The Who were pretty awful last night. I wanted to turn the tv off halfway through and make everyone watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cmUDN3coFc I am not sure how much of it was the sound, which was pretty shoddy, but compared to their Concert for New York set six years ago (let alone The Who's phenomenal shows in their prime) it fell very flat for me. We started making Spinal Tap jokes almost immediately. It did set my grandmother up for a great quip: (Pete Townsend on the television): "Who's that guy? He needs a shave and a bath." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I'm guessing it will be Taylor Swift next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I enjoyed it. I thought it was definitely better than Springsteen or Petty. Petty defined going through the motions. The best ones I can think of are Prince, McCartney, and U2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I wouldn't rate it up there with the best performances of The Who. I gave it the ratings I gave it taking into consideration their age/rustiness (they don't exactly tour constantly) and the medley factor. For what it was, I thought they pulled it off quite well. I'm thinking Mellencamp is going to be getting a shot. People tend to forget how big Jack and Diane was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 2011 half time will be a country act. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 2011 half time will be a country act. If you're using the logic I think you are, why wasn't this year's Gloria Estefan? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 dinosaur jr should do it. or the flaming lips. wayne could go through the entire stadium in that ball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 If you're using the logic I think you are, why wasn't this year's Gloria Estefan? or Jimmy Buffett Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardwood floor Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I think that song-writing is definitely a youngster's game. I can't think of any major artists whose later-life song writing is on par with what they wrote when younger. meet Robert Pollard unique in pop music because his best stuff now - in his 50s - is every bit as good as guided by voices' best stuff from back in the day i've never seen anything like it ... the guy has released something like 200 records and is still putting out some of the best music of his life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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