winterland121072 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I think Jerry was clean for December 86 through mid 88ish....then he started up again by 89 and 90...i think.... Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Garcia was clean and not clean on and off most of his career. It doesn't matter, much, in the end. To me, at least. He had his ups and downs, musically/vocally. Even when he shat the bed, at times, with the lyrics/vocals, his playing almost always made up for it. It's part of the lore that the JGB became a conduit to fund his and John Kahn's habits/vices for a lot of the 80s. Some great music was made by the JGB in the 80s..... Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I thought the '87-'91 period was generally an excellent period for Garcia and the GD band. I got off the bus in the early '80's, around '81 I guess, and was shocked as hell to see how great I thought they were when i went back in September '87. The hiatus did me good. From my experiences, both live and tape trading, the MSG fall '90 and Boston fall '91 were the last great runs. I was surprised to read the liner notes to the current spring '90 box set as calling that the last great period (I know they're selling). I kept going until the end, but the '92-95 era were often painful to watch, with some ecstatic moments scattered around. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I thought the '87-'91 period was generally an excellent period for Garcia and the GD band. I got off the bus in the early '80's, around '81 I guess, and was shocked as hell to see how great I thought they were when i went back in September '87. The hiatus did me good. From my experiences, both live and tape trading, the MSG fall '90 and Boston fall '91 were the last great runs. I was surprised to read the liner notes to the current spring '90 box set as calling that the last great period (I know they're selling). I kept going until the end, but the '92-95 era were often painful to watch, with some ecstatic moments scattered around. i enjoyed the shows from 92-95, but purposefully didn't go to many. i also left early a few times. post space was just killing time. now, i cannot listen to any show from that era. i just don't care for vince. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 i enjoyed the shows from 92-95, but purposefully didn't go to many. i also left early a few times. post space was just killing time. now, i cannot listen to any show from that era. Yep. My last show was Giants Stadium '95, after the first night. The show was a debacle, for the most part. The Wharf Rat was pathetic, Garcia was lost. Handed our tix for the next night to strangers on the way out of the show it was so rough. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Yep. My last show was Giants Stadium '95, after the first night. The show was a debacle, for the most part. The Wharf Rat was pathetic, Garcia was lost. Handed our tix for the next night to strangers on the way out of the show it was so rough. yeah, lots of folks were doing that on multiple night runs. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I saw the 2nd to last Dead show, and cringed when they started my favorite tune, Terrapin. It got butchered. But then he pulled off the most amazing Visions, with all those verses - guess they had the teleprompters on for that one. Whatever the case, those post space Garcia ballads were my favorite parts of the shows, and why I could never leave early. The rest of the show was terrible, but that made it all worth while. Just wait for the "Even Mona Lisa must've had the highway blues...": http://youtu.be/xkIoj5iYTsI Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Arrest arrest? Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Nothing of the sort my good fellow. For some reason I couldnt post here for some weeks. Had to start a new account, eeesh. Here's some news-got swarmed by yellowjackets yesterday. Only one bad sting so I got lucky. Link to post Share on other sites
Fritz Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I've been watching this today. Jerry's 70th birthday tribute show from Bob Weir's TRI Studios. There's some very nice music in this two hour selection of highlights. http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/live/watch-move-brightly-tribute-jerry-garcia-full-four-165009059.html;_ylt=Avl0SeMvOgy5PDxVlP6zQS3Nfoh4;_ylu=X3oDMTNucWZhazNwBG1pdANUUkkgSnVtYm90cm9uBHBrZwM5YThlNzRmMy04NTYxLTNhZTQtYmVkNS0zNzQwZmM1M2JkYTUEcG9zAzEEc2VjA2p1bWJvdHJvbgR2ZXIDNjcwMWYxMDAtZTBkMi0xMWUxLWJlNGEtMTUwMzVlMmFjYzMw;_ylg=X3oDMTFlamZvM2ZlBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdAMEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3 Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 http://archive.org/d...k.76.sbeok.shnf Grateful Dead5/31/69McArthur CourtEugene, OR Per B.Jackson's blog entry - I don't think I ever listened to this show before - they sound like they are having fun. Great Yellow Dog Story segment. Always loved the older, fast Cold Rain and Snow. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Nothing of the sort my good fellow. For some reason I couldnt post here for some weeks. Had to start a new account, eeesh. Here's some news-got swarmed by yellowjackets yesterday. Only one bad sting so I got lucky.Well well well. Look who we have here! Just got my shipping notice for the Spring 90 release - I guess that's kinda cool, it was suppose to ship on the 31st. Listening to the 2nd set of 10.1.94, again. Jerry singing and overall performance is great for the period - I wonder if this means he was on really great stuff for the show or straight...I guess it doesn't matter at the end of the day.So...what do ya think? It's really a BAND in every sense of the word on these shows. So glad I took the plunge. BUT - how in the fuck do they omit 3/29? Criminal, I tell ya. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 So...what do ya think? It's really a BAND in every sense of the word on these shows. So glad I took the plunge. BUT - how in the fuck do they omit 3/29? Criminal, I tell ya. The sound of the cd's are great - I only halfway through the shows, though. I enjoyed the book that came with the 72 set more than the 90 set - perhaps because the story behind the 72 tour is a lot more interesting. The pics in the 72 set seem to be better quality, too. The 90 set, overall (presentation, etc.) is better, though. Very solid packaging, etc (which is what we are shelling the 200 clams out for, I guess). The Dead were more concise in their playing on this tour - which is not a bad thing, they just did not wander or go off on a weird tangent on these discs. The shows seem relativity short, but that may be because I have been listening to a lot of 69-72 as of late, so anything seems short compared to that era. Plus, I could do without the Hey Jude (not a big fan of the song), plus Brent pretty much butchers it. Regarding the omission of 3/29/90 show, I am not sure. Two songs have been released already, but I think a few other songs from these six shows have been released, too - so I am guessing that is not the reason. I'm pretty sure Bradford Marsalis didn't nix the release (probably didn't have any legal ground to do so, anyway). Perhaps Rhino has a 3/29 CD/DVD release in the pipeline - who knows. Anyway - no buyer's remorse on my end. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 And another thing, my 90 set was 6868 - perfect year (1968) for the next set..... Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I was just listening to Without A Net and the Branford Marsalis Eyes of The World, so nice! I was thinking about how good it would've sounded if they'd brought back the minor key/major key jam they used to do on that song in '73 and played that with Branford. How about Branford on a Supplication jam? Gotta go back and listen to what he did with Slipknot, too. http://archive.org/details/gd1991-09-10.mtx.amdig.gems.98132.flac16 Nice 'n spacey Slipknot with Branford and I think Bruce Hornsby, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Listening to the Fire on the Mountain from Dead Set at work now, after playing the versions of Bertha, Mama Tried, Big Railroad Blues and Playing In the Band from Skull & Roses.Whatever happened to Big Railroad Blues? They hardly played that one in concert, it seems. They never played it between '74 and '79, and some years after that, too, they never played it at all. Underrated tune, IMHO.It's turning into a Grateful Dead afternoon here at work.... Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I love Big Railroad Blues, too. Any short fast Garcia rocker was something I always wished for (Might As Well, etc). Try the really good one from Worcester 4-7-88 http://archive.org/d...63.sbeok.flac16 Garcia kicks into a second go around on the solo and the crowd really responds. A short moment of brilliance from the Dead! "...we could be brilliant...for seconds on end!" Goes into a pretty good Around and Around, even though Bob flubs the ending. He wanted to keep going and the band thought it was the end. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 There is a youtube of that full show with Branford that you are referencing, I believe. The Slipknot is deep and nasty. Also, Big RxR Blues rocks! Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I saw Big RxR only a few times, and it was always a special first set treat. Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Here's another really good Big Railroad Blues 10-15-83 http://archive.org/details/gd1983-10-15.mtx.seamons.99326.sbeok.flac16Garcia solos and solos on this one, he doesn't wanna quit! Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I happen to be listening to 9/2/83 now - another sprite BRB. Don't listen to 83, too often. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Here's another really good Big Railroad Blues 10-15-83 http://archive.org/d...26.sbeok.flac16Garcia solos and solos on this one, he doesn't wanna quit!Love Big RxR, too. This show smoked top to bottom. I remember anticipating that Stephen (as they had done it a few nights earlier at MSG with a similar 1st half of Set II ) and still get shivers listening to it out of Space. The place errupted like no other time I'd seen the band previously or after (including D Star Warlocks, Ripple break-out, etc). Magical. In hindsight, it had really only been a few years since they'd played Stephen.... Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Sometimes this thread reminds me of this, which someone posted a while back:http://youtu.be/62T9ESyOtJo Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Sometimes this thread reminds me of this, which someone posted a while back:http://youtu.be/62T9ESyOtJo I love those. The jazz ones are great. Link to post Share on other sites
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