John Smith Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 http://migraine.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/...-off/index.html March 5, 2008, 4:34 pm Shaking It OffBy Jeff Tweedy Jeff Tweedy is primarily known as the lyricist, lead singer and guitarist of Wilco, one of America Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I read that first line as:Jeff Tweedy is primarily known as the racist lead singer and guitarist of Wilco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Melissa Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Great article! I was pleasantly surprised to see the headline at the bottom of the New York Times' homepage this morning. Let me just say that after a sleepless, stress-filled night, this was actually a very heartening article - Jeff is a resilient person and a great writer. I can only hope that with strength and support like his, he will continue to improve. Thanks for posting the article! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Thanks for posting. That's some serious shit he's talking of. Anyone who's gone through anything to make them anxious/depressed/panicked for a long period of time will be able to relate. Sounds like Jeff has gotten off the meds, which is a good thing. I know firsthand how certain medicines can help short-term, but are not the answer long-term. The mind/brain is very intiricate and playing around with its chemical makeup can be scary and challenging to deal with. There's much better ways of dealing with problems naturally, whether it be diet or exercise or cutting back on commitments or just spending time with family and friends. Doctors, in most cases, want the patient to feel better very quickly, so rely on anxiety and anti-depressive medicines to cure the patient. Most of the time, the problems can be treated without resorting to the quick fix. But once a person starts down the road of an anti-depressive, getting off of them can be hell. I feel for Jeff and hope he's past the crappy times for good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Long Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 that was an amazing article. Loved it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quosh Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 a fantastic insight into that 'murky' period... Many thanks for that,alex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Really great article. As a sufferer of both migraines and panic attacks, I can totally relate to what he's saying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Jeff Tweedy is primarily known as the racist lead singer and guitarist of Wilco huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I read that first line as:Jeff Tweedy is primarily known as the racist lead singer and guitarist of Wilco well, after his "Obama as Kingfish" impression, at one of the residency shows, I can see why you might make that mistake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Thanks for posting that. My dad has been a longtime sufferer of cluster headaches, which pop up every 12-18 months for him, and I've always dreaded the possibility of inheriting those. They are devastating. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 That article alone was better than "Learning How To Die". My Doc once asked me what I would do if these feelings never went away? And you know what, they don't, you learn to deal and cope. I will admit that I have relapsed in the last several years, but not as frequent and every day is getting better. This article made me feel really good. And congrats to our brother man Jeff! Your one strong trooper! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Really great article. As a sufferer of both migraines and panic attacks, I can totally relate to what he's saying. I used to have them alot, but they've subsided for me in the last year or so, which is a very good thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 A psychiatrist will use medications to alleviate short term, alter chemical imbalance, and provide example behavior. Some of us have used drugs and we understand how it makes us feel, pot for instance, is a sensitizer for me. I can use the example of how I felt when I was using it and implement the behavior, if I choose, while not using it. It is cognitive restructure. Some conditions require long term medication, some don't. It is scary to note that the abrupt discontinuation of anti depressant sends individuals into chaos. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this was evident in the Virginia Tech and N. Illinois campus shootings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sunken mountain Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
konev1 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I noticed Jeff talks a lot in the article about self-observations and a lot of what he figured out about his issues came from his own reasoning, and also how less-than-competent doctors can sometimes make matters worse by misdiagnoses or medicating when maybe medication isn't quite correct. Does anyone know of a public forum anywhere online where people can share their observations and their issues and maybe seek help from others with similar conditions? I feel like this is a really positive way to deal with things. Just having a way to relate to others and learn from people with similar problems sounds really helpful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I loved this article. Thanks Jeff for being courageous enough to talk about stuff that is often kept inside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamin' Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Unfortunately, the shame and secrecy surrounding mental illness and addiction often prevents people from getting the help they need. I think Jeff is helping to fight that stigma by being so honest and open about his own experiences and offering hope to people who are in pain. I'm sorry that he had to suffer for so long before he found the right kind of help (horror stories about unethical therapists always make me angry). I'm glad that the healthy part of him was able to create such amazing music during this time and continues to flourish. I've always been fascinated by the therapeutic effects of music and art, especially as a way to express powerful emotions that are beyond words. Gabor Mate's new book on addiction looks really interesting and this article has inspired me to pick it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 This was a really good read, thanks for posting. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Great article Quote Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 here we go... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 That was an impressive article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RaspberryJam Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I've been reading this ongoing series in the NYTimes about migraines. They've been describing and showing a lot of visual arts done by migraine sufferers, but this is the first they've done on music. I've been wanting to suggest in the comments section that people listen to Jeff Tweedy's music to experience some aural creativity brought on by migraines. Great article today, so glad they read my mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jc4prez Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Thanks for sharing Jeff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 As someone who used to suffer from (thankfully rare, but) debilitating migraines, and as someone who knows very well the vicious cycle of actively trying to avoid them but bringing them on by doing so, that article hit home pretty hard. Not sure why, but I got choked up at the end. And now all I can think about is: This world of words and meanings makes you feel outsideSomething that you feel already deep insideYou Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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