Winston Legthigh Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I had no idea Sesame Street has been on Trump's ass since the 80s. So great. Ronald Grump. Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 ^Wow Sesame Street knew he was a dirtbag back then it is a shame 61,000,000 Americans didn't during the election cycle Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Any of you looking to do whatever you can to impede Trump's vicious agenda may want to use this number from CREDO action to call senators and reject Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court. I love this setup, which does all the work for you of contacting the senators who can make a difference. Just call the number and say you object to Gorsuch's nomination. It will patch you through to as many senators as you care to speak with! Remember November 9th and everything that's come since. Call and (figuratively at least) throw a brick through Trump's picture window! The number is 202 765-3399 Do it! Let's not let the Supreme Court become another Trump Organization! Easiest political activism ever. Make your voice heard. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted March 21, 2017 Author Share Posted March 21, 2017 More news on Manafort: He laundered money for a pro-Russian Ukrainian group. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Any of you looking to do whatever you can to impede Trump's vicious agenda may want to use this number from CREDO action to call senators and reject Neil Gorsuch for the Supreme Court. I love this setup, which does all the work for you of contacting the senators who can make a difference. Just call the number and say you object to Gorsuch's nomination. It will patch you through to as many senators as you care to speak with! Remember November 9th and everything that's come since. Call and (figuratively at least) throw a brick through Trump's picture window! The number is 202 765-3399 Do it! Let's not let the Supreme Court become another Trump Organization! Easiest political activism ever. Make your voice heard. I am all for political activism and making your voice be heard (and this should be a condemnation of calling your representative), but unfortunately I don't think it will have an effect. My Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) has received numerous calls on issues since the election and has been accused of turning off his phones, complained about the number of calls his office has received, and may or may not have sent a cease and desist letter to a constituent for repeated calls. This compounded with the numerous "empty chair town halls," it is apparent to me our elected representatives just no longer care what we think, or believe the people complaining are just a small, but vocal group, who cannot get over the election. I think (and BTW I think this really sucks) all the phone calls in the world not change the minds of the GOP senators. They showed they are not interested in their constitutional duty, but refusing President Obama's nominee. So there is no evidence that they would do anything to stop now they have a nominee in place that they really like. Shit, this is depressing. Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Kevin, it is so easy to be depressed and cynical right now...I speak from firsthand experience!... but I choose not to give in to it because some one of those phone calls or other efforts is going to provoke a legislative conscience somewhere, and perhaps make a wild and unexpected difference in how it all plays out. We lose nothing but a few minutes to place these calls, and all I know is, doing nothing absolutely insures that we make no difference. I'd rather err on the side of having tried. Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I concur, Kidsmoke. I've been calling my senators and congressional rep and writing letters. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Same here - the letter writing/phone calling bit --- got to admit, though, out of all this crap, Gorsuch seems like a solid pick -- I definitely don't agree with many of his past judgements or his judicial point of view - but he is definitely qualified. This whole crap that the R's did with Garland is beyond reproach, I don't want the D's to repeat. The Court needs to stay above this political crap. Once it goes - we all go. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Now Trump is going to attend the NATO meetings...this should be interesting and could be frightening/embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 So I am wondering - Where are the Trump supporters here? I know there are some of you lurking. How about coming on now and support your guy. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Well this is interesting...Gorsuch case unanimously overturned by the current Supreme Court. Actually it was a case that relied on a Gorsuch opinion. Regardless the timing couldn't be worse for him. He will still be confirmed but what little I have read about him Indicates to me that Thomas, Kennedy and Roberts probably will be the middle of the court once he gets on. Link to post Share on other sites
Chez Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I can't stand Trump and what happened to Merrick Garland, but "payback" (if one feels the need for payback) shouldn't come in the form of rejecting Gorsuch. He is unquestionably qualified and a solid pick (Trump could have picked far, far worse). Al Franken is embarrassing himself and should STFU in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 I can't stand Trump and what happened to Merrick Garland, but "payback" (if one feels the need for payback) shouldn't come in the form of rejecting Gorsuch. He is unquestionably qualified and a solid pick (Trump could have picked far, far worse). Al Franken is embarrassing himself and should STFU in my opinion. I am not sure what Franken said, but it is not a matter if Gorsuch is qualified or not. The supreme court seat was stolen from Garland and Obama and the current President and his administration is now under and FBI investigation. The legitimacy his entire presidency is under question. Any SCOTUS nominee that the President brings up is illegitimate for these reasons. The President could reanimate the corpse of Thurgood Marshall or clone the Notorious RGB and nominate them and it would be a moral imperative to not confirm. This is not a payback, it is the right thing to do. And BTW, if Clinton would have won, I would be equally upset if she did not keep Garland. Link to post Share on other sites
Chez Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Well, we will agree to disagree. It's not the right thing to do unless you're embroiled in a dispute while sitting in a sandbox or playground. Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 they should ask Gorsuch on his interpretation of the process of filling a supreme court justice. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 they should ask Gorsuch on his interpretation of the process of filling a supreme court justice. Franken did ask him if Garland was treated fairly, and Gorsuch punted. Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 they should go into more detail... it's a constitutionally-governed process, so they should ask him about the details and his interpretation. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Well, we will agree to disagree. It's not the right thing to do unless you're embroiled in a dispute while sitting in a sandbox or playground. ummm.... no. I hate that, "we will agree to disagree," and then throw out that my argument was childish. Such a cop out. This is not a playground fight, this is not payback. This is a constitutional thing, this is a matter of principal, this is a matter of doing what is right. The GOP subverted their constitutionally prescribed duty, to advise and consent, they stole a constitutionally prescribed power of the President and the only reason they did this was political. What they did was not right. And now the question of the legitimacy of the very administration that nominated him has come into question. Say if the President is found out to be working with Russia, or what not, does that not bring into question every single decision he has made as president? Gorsuch would be on the supreme court for life (25 years plus). Are you willing to take a chance for 25 years that he also had nothing to do with Russia, etc. The Supreme Court should, at all times be above reproach, to be fair in their interpretation of the laws and constitution. With the spectre of the FBI investigation on the administration, you cannot say in good conscious and faith that Gorsuch can do that. Again this not about the Gorsuch, it is about the President. And of course maybe there is no Russia connection. Wouldn't you want that to be at least cleared so we know for certain the intentions of the President before allowing his hand picked guy to have one of the most powerful positions in the world for the next quarter of a century? With that being said, Gorsuch will be confirmed I have no doubt but that doesn't mean the Dems have to accept it. Every single Democrat needs to vote no. They need to explain their reasoning. They need to force McConnell to use the Nuclear option. This is not a petty act, it is a moral act. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 they should go into more detail... it's a constitutionally-governed process, so they should ask him about the details and his interpretation. Instead the GOP is asking him bullshit questions. Asking him his favorite fishing spot. Screw you. Asking if he would rather fight 100 duck sized horses or one horse sized duck? Fuck you Senator Flake, that is embarrassing. And Fuck you Senator Cruz for ever tainting the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. You sanctimonious prick. Do your fucking job. Link to post Share on other sites
Chez Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 KevinG -- didn't mean to offend or upset you. While I applaud and admire your passion, I feel like while you were defending your argument, you actually made mine (and probably better than I could have). Link to post Share on other sites
ditty Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 A - Morals and constitutional duty Q - Things Republicans hold sacred only when it benefits them Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 KevinG -- didn't mean to offend or upset you. While I applaud and admire your passion, I feel like while you were defending your argument, you actually made mine (and probably better than I could have). Aren't you just the king of backhanded complements. So tell me, how did I make your argument? Explain to me why Gorsuch should be confirmed. If this were a normal situation, I would have no issue with him as a justice. Let's make that perfectly clear. But this is not a normal situation. It appears that Chuck Schumer agrees with me. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chuck-schumer-neil-gorsuch_us_58d3da09e4b0f838c630067b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009 Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted March 23, 2017 Author Share Posted March 23, 2017 And they delayed the vote on the health care bill! Apparently someone has lost touch with the art of the deal. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 And they delayed the vote on the health care bill! Apparently someone has lost touch with the art of the deal. In the last two months has there been anything that the President has touched that has gone right, or smoothly? Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 His speech to Congress? Appointing Gorsuch. Possibly some good BMs? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
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