KevinG Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 ever feel like we are living in the era just before the dystopian nightmare they write about in those Young Adult novels? Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Oof the Senate's bill is just as rotten as the House's. I wonder if they can cram this crap through. Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Yesterday while driving back home from northern WI, I saw a moron with WI plates flying confederate and American flags from the back of his pickup. I've seen people flying those traitorous flags in Virginia but never in my 40+ years of going to northern WI. Do I blame 45? You betcha! Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Our Congressman Steven King has that traitorous flag on his desk. Iowans died fighting it. Fuck him. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Yesterday while driving back home from northern WI, I saw a moron with WI plates flying confederate and American flags from the back of his pickup. I've seen people flying those traitorous flags in Virginia but never in my 40+ years of going to northern WI. Do I blame 45? You betcha! Ha! - I am middle of the below. Interesting book, thus far. Sadly, the above was probably going on before 45 - which probably helped get 45 elected. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Yesterday while driving back home from northern WI, I saw a moron with WI plates flying confederate and American flags from the back of his pickup. I've seen people flying those traitorous flags in Virginia but never in my 40+ years of going to northern WI. Do I blame 45? You betcha! I have seen that flag everywhere from Hawaii to Canada. The other day I was waiting to cross the street and saw a guy in a big noisy truck with two giant flags flying off the back. He appeared to be smoking a meth pipe at the stop light. He sort of stared at me for a minute and then gunned it through the light. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just a general comment. I'm always one to give the benefit of the doubt. I argue cogently in order to learn new information and be challenged to change, hone my stance. I've always believed, against my better judgement, that reactionaries have good reason for their views. They don't. The last few days I've perused some of their 'real news' sites and I am astounded by the hateful, stupid, scary, reactive things people say about a totally spun news report. There's no way to engage them as you'll be dismissed as a Muslim. This seriously happened several times. These people are so deluded and drowning in pervasive misinformation and instigation that it's clear how the masses can be rallied for fascism, genocide and war. Even without TV and the internet. I have to say, it is a bit liberating realizing this as I won't be wasting time trying to engage and feel less guilty about seeing them as ignorant, deluded, of low intelligence or mentally ill. It's a very sad situation and seems like something out of a horror novel. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Yesterday while driving back home from northern WI, I saw a moron with WI plates flying confederate and American flags from the back of his pickup. I've seen people flying those traitorous flags in Virginia but never in my 40+ years of going to northern WI. Do I blame 45? You betcha!I have seen more confederate flags in N WI then in my time in the south Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 I have seen more confederate flags in N WI then in my time in the southWalker didn't get elected by no one. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 At Gettysburg this weekend a bunch of armed individuals showed up "to protect" confederate monuments graves and flags from Being dedicated by anti fascists (does that make them pro-fascist?) anyhow it was all based on an internet rumor that was proven to be false. In the long run these guys made visitors feel uncomfortable and one of them ended up shooting himself. Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 ...and one of them ended up shooting himself. Encore! Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 At Gettysburg this weekend a bunch of armed individuals showed up "to protect" confederate monuments graves and flags from Being dedicated by anti fascists (does that make them pro-fascist?) anyhow it was all based on an internet rumor that was proven to be false. In the long run these guys made visitors feel uncomfortable and one of them ended up shooting himself. Classic! Once they get something in their heads it's there forever. This whole mess about this poor baby in the UK is an example. The kid is terminal and comments on the right news pages all talk about saving his life. They are misinformed about everything and angry about everything. There is not talking any sense into them. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Classic! Once they get something in their heads it's there forever. This whole mess about this poor baby in the UK is an example. The kid is terminal and comments on the right news pages all talk about saving his life. They are misinformed about everything and angry about everything. There is not talking any sense into them.I found it funny POTUS tweeting about Charlie Guard, but he has no regard for the millions of his citizens who will die because of his parties awful Healthcare bill. And really if you think POTUS gives two fucks about this boy you are an idiot and so easily fooled I feel sorry for you. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 This article is everything you need to know about the current state of American politics: Trump Supports Cry Basis After NPR Tweets the Declaration of Independence Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 I found it funny POTUS tweeting about Charlie Guard, but he has no regard for the millions of his citizens who will die because of his parties awful Healthcare bill. And really if you think POTUS gives two fucks about this boy you are an idiot and so easily fooled I feel sorry for you. I had one of these right wing dudes tell me that liberals kill while conservatives 'let die'. Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 This article is everything you need to know about the current state of American politics: Trump Supports Cry Basis After NPR Tweets the Declaration of Independence No doubt. The satire in the comment section is great. You could say anything and attribute it to 'liberals' and the right would go apeshit. The stuff they come up with is incredible. Mentally ill? Link to post Share on other sites
The Inside of Outside Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 This article is everything you need to know about the current state of American politics: Trump Supports Cry Basis After NPR Tweets the Declaration of IndependenceHilarious. And Sad. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Trump, Putin and Tillerson having s meeting with no one else present...what could possibly go wrong with that? Edit...Lavrov and translators so six total and I guess whomever is listening in on Russia's end. Edit 2: WTF? Our current administration was not smart enough to even book hotel rooms for the G20. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Don Jr is either incredibly dumb or he's getting really bad legal advice or he's ignoring legal advice. Link to post Share on other sites
NoJ Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Is lil' donnyboy jr falling on his sword to somehow protect his father or is he really that stupid? Anyways, this undeniable evidence of collusion is certainly welcome and well overdue. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Is lil' donnyboy jr falling on his sword to somehow protect his father or is he really that stupid? Anyways, this undeniable evidence of collusion is certainly welcome and well overdue. It is only collusion if you look at the evidence. Plus it was probably Obama and the Democrats anyways. http://www.salon.com/2017/07/11/sean-hannity-blames-democrats-for-the-donald-trump-jr-problems/ Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 He's not falling on his sword he's an idiot who couldn't keep his yap shut. Besides his dad tossed him under the bus today by saying he had no knowledge of this meeting till a couple of days ago. Of course he's lying because that's what he does. Btw kudos to the NYT for rolling this story out a little bit each day. Kind of caused jr to provide the smoking gun emails today. I wonder what tomorrow will bring. Edit: in October, after the Comey letter to congress, Harry Reid wrote s letter to Comey. In the letter Reid lets Comey know that he understands that the FBI has quite a bit of information linking trump and his campaign with the Russians. I wonder how long before McConnell and or the RNC get brought into the picture. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I have said it before this Russia thing will not bring down the President. The GOP simply does not care enough to do anything about it. It is Party over country. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 It won't bring him down, but it sure is crippling him. I mean what the fuck did Donald Jr. think? Dumber than a box of rocks. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The "he's just naive" defense only works (if at all) for Jr. Manafort had decades of experience dealing with Russian and Ukranian government officials and oligarchs. He knew exactly what a meeting like this meant -- and the email thread makes it crystal clear. His (and Kushner's) involvement makes this so much more than just an isolated dumb mistake. And there's no way his micro-managing, gossip-loving, win-at-all-costs Dad didn't know all about it. Only question is whether there's a paper trail to prove it. Link to post Share on other sites
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