mattboh Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 In light of all of the YHF hoopla, does anyone have expectations for the next album? On a side note, would Ghost have been better than Yankee if they'd left off the drone? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackberry Rust Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 The hints I've seen of the new album - mostly via Glenn's beat-a-week contributions - look promising. A lot of my love for Wilco since YHF has centred around Glenn's creative drum work. Overall, I'm hoping for something a bit more dynamically variable than the last couple of albums. Less waltzes and whispery vocals would be welcome as well, though I really liked Ode To Joy and thought it was the best, cohesive work they'd produced since Sky Blue Sky or WTA. On A Ghost Is Born and the drone on "Less Than You Think", personally I think it's essential to the pacing of the album and is pretty consistent with what the band was tinkering with at the time. If you've ever heard the album that accompanies the Wilco Book from 2004 with material drawn from 2002-2003, the seeds of the drone and open-ended texture stuff are all there. Having said all of that though, Jim O'Rourke cops a lot of flak for the 'weirder' stuff that Wilco indulged in around this time. What's worth remembering is that - according to Jim's anecdotes - the more outlandish stuff came largely from Jeff and it was Jim's preference to cut down the drone on "Less Than You Think", the feedback from "Handshake Drugs" and go with the earlier version of "Spiders (Kidsmoke)". If there's a justifiable criticism of Jim's involvement, then it is his preference for fairly dry production. Having said that, his production/mixing work on tracks like "Company In My Back" is up there with some of the most beautiful, perfectly paced arrangements I've heard. I just think it's stunning. Anyway, knowing Jim's preference for brevity and space for things to breathe, that logic of keeping it simpler makes sense and it's one of the reasons that YHF sounds so spacious and open, since his mixing role largely comprised of hacking away the many, many layers of extraneous noodling. Mods: maybe retitle this thread something like "new album speculation"? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marijn Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) Someone on the Steve Hoffman forums posted this last week. Surprised that it hasn’t been mentioned here on VC yet: Edit: wait, does the image work? I added it via mobile; I'll try again later when I'm home. Anyway, it's a snippet from a local Minnesota radio station that mentions a double album to be released next month. 987F4556-ED61-4511-AF81-F63B647D5471.webp Edited April 27, 2022 by Marijn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattboh Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 I'm still waiting for the prog/afrobeat release that was eluded to during the recording of Ode. I would love to hear their "noisy" side. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuckrh Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I love Less Than You Think. Maybe for the Ghost anniversary shows! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ViaNewOrleans Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 The part about release of a double album in May has magically disappeared from the KAXE website. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heart full of holes Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Just heard this on WYEP! That's some twang right there! Love the album title. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, Heart full of holes said: Just heard this on WYEP! That's some twang right there! Love the album title. Looks like a YouTube page has been started. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_odog3e_Ks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzle of Dan Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Cruel Country? Double Album? So excited for some new Wilco and very excited to be attending Solid Sound this year with some new material coming out. Maybe they play the whole thing on Friday? IMO the drone on AGIB is one of the very things that makes that album "better" than YHF (not that I intend to put any shade on YHF) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boss_Tweedy Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, calvino said: Looks like a YouTube page has been started. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_odog3e_Ks Well I'm intrigued. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heart full of holes Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Muzzle of Dan said: Cruel Country? Double Album? So excited for some new Wilco and very excited to be attending Solid Sound this year with some new material coming out. Maybe they play the whole thing on Friday? DJ said release date is May 27. Lines up perfectly for Friday night 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madcap Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Oh hell yes bring it on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Hopefully the double length means it will be a stylistically wide ranging record. I feel their last two (and first two) were narrowly focused on the style they were working within. That’s not a bad thing, but at this stage of their career, and especially with a double album, I’d like to see them flex every muscle they’ve developed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chisoxjtrain Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 This is exciting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Well this is incredibly exciting news! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billboy73 Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Double album? I'm definitely intrigued! I prefer AGIB to YHF anyway, but I can handle the drone every so often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 If I had to gauge from the unfinished stuff he's shared on his newsletter (which could be misleading), I'm expecting something multi-layered and vibrant like some of the stuff on The Whole Love. Kind of the yin to Ode to Joy's yang. A little less stark. But who knows. They've been talking about doing a double album for years. I'm excited this one was made with a lot of the team all together for major portions of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondClaw Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 21 minutes ago, lost highway said: If I had to gauge from the unfinished stuff he's shared on his newsletter (which could be misleading), I'm expecting something multi-layered and vibrant like some of the stuff on The Whole Love. Kind of the yin to Ode to Joy's yang. A little less stark. But who knows. They've been talking about doing a double album for years. I'm excited this one was made with a lot of the team all together for major portions of it. Me too! The fact that they all got together to record at the same time is a big factor for me. And The Whole Love is my favorite "modern" Wilco album, so if your read is right, that only adds to the excitement. Can't wait for the official announcement for all this! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackberry Rust Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 5 hours ago, calvino said: Looks like a YouTube page has been started. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_odog3e_Ks I could listen to it here in Australia. That's some good stuff and a genuine stylistic surprise! So much twang going on..I immediately had Merle Haggard's "Workingman's Blues" come to mind. Based on the little tidbits via Starship Casual and Glenn's Instagram, I suspect we're in for something fairly eclectic, which is really, really exciting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
!goose! Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 Shmilco 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TCP Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Blackberry Rust said: I could listen to it here in Australia. Ah SO! I'm willing to bet this will unlock for us North Americans at midnight our time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackberry Rust Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, TCP said: Ah SO! I'm willing to bet this will unlock for us North Americans at midnight our time. I imagine so! I checked in here around 7am (ACST) so - for the sake of precision - that's about 5:30pm (GMT-4)? I'll just go on record and say that this is the most surprising single they've dropped in a long, long time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lukestar Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Yes, it seems we'll have to wait for the sun to carry it over tomorrow. Here's a little sample... https://mora.jp/package/43000008/190296133374/?fmid=newRelease_all_0001 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackberry Rust Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I am really hoping that some of the demoes that were behind the paywall at Starship Casual make it as actual cuts on this album, especially "Lou Reed Was My Babysitter" and "Soldier Child". If that's the case, it's going to be wild. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Lukestar said: Yes, it seems we'll have to wait for the sun to carry it over tomorrow. Here's a little sample... https://mora.jp/package/43000008/190296133374/?fmid=newRelease_all_0001 Whoa. Not what I expected! Full on Sun Records slap echo on the vocals. Can't wait to hear the whole thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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