makeshift Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 There is bootleg video of the "Bobfest" rehearsals. Bod didn't really talk to anyone at this gig either.I have given up on him as a live performer. His band from 97-2002 was excellent. Specifically, when Larry Campbell was in his band. He neutered them; and those horrible circus keys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah, I can see being a bit wary of the general public, I guess (although wouldn't it be easier to stay home & collect his own urine?) - but what's he afraid of backstage? Does he think Wilco's going to bug him fan-boy style?Probably more afraid of Jim James giving him a big sweaty bearded hug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Probably more afraid of Jim James giving him a big sweaty bearded hug.Well that's just something we ALL have to live with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I had no familiarity with MMJ before seeing them from the front row/rail, and my reaction alternated between somewhat skeptical and "I kinda like this big ol' hippie-looking Grizzly-Adams-beard dude." But then, I have always gotten along with guys like that. Probably because I was such a stoner in school. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suites Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I had no familiarity with MMJ before seeing them from the front row/rail, and my reaction alternated between somewhat skeptical and "I kinda like this big ol' hippie-looking Grizzly-Adams-beard dude." But then, I have always gotten along with guys like that. Probably because I was such a stoner in school.MMJ kills it every time I see them...just love JJ he is a Rock Star. Did anyone see them profiled on CBS Sunday Morning a few weeks ago? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twoshedsjackson Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I did. Good stuff. Bearded sweaty hug jokes aside, I really like MMJ. I've been a fan for years, but Mansfield on the 20th will be my first time seeing them. Can't wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moxiebean Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 MMJ kills it every time I see them...just love JJ he is a Rock Star. Did anyone see them profiled on CBS Sunday Morning a few weeks ago?I've only seen MMJ once, a few years ago. JJ was wearing a velvet cape and sporting a pair of silver cap guns. Anyone else would look like a tool (unless they were 4 yrs old), but somehow he made it work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I've only seen MMJ once, a few years ago. JJ was wearing a velvet cape and sporting a pair of silver cap guns. Anyone else would look like a tool (unless they were 4 yrs old), but somehow he made it work. yep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I actually read some stuff about them, including an interview, and listened to a tiny bit of their music before seeing them live, so I wasn't totally unfamiliar with him or the band. I remember him indicating that he had gone way, way out there on psychedelics, so I related to that. The band's studio tracks didn't grab me, so I didn't force feed myself. I figured it would be better to see them live. Very tight band, and although the lyrics didn't do much for me, the music was played well...though a bit too loudly for my tinnitus to handle. Ear plugs are a must for anyone seeing these guys, even in the front row. They have an absolute beast of a monitor right next to the drummer. Entertaining as hell, but holy schnikes... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 2004.. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSAn-iZJfSzB-YNu9VOgEQQvP-NUlV83ThbEjr1u5EA4pyCKQuV2004.. bonnaroo http://t2.gstatic.co...jr1u5EA4pyCKQuV Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I promise I'm not trying to start a 12 page holy war VC thread but I have to say I thought Dylan sounded really bad in Cincinnati Saturday. ...If you didn't already recognize the song and know the lyrics you literally had no idea what he was saying. A guy on Wilco's Facebook page posted, "My wife said Dylan sounded like The Cookie Monster wearing pajamas doing rap songs." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hinko Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 A guy on Wilco's Facebook page posted, "My wife said Dylan sounded like The Cookie Monster wearing pajamas doing rap songs."  That's funny!  I get the feeling not many but the very drunk were impressed.  there were some older fans in front of me that saw him in 1966, I didn't think they were too into it.  I think they were forcing themselves to like him.  They weren't aging hippies with no hair except a pony tail, they looked to be well off and grown up (sorry to any aging hippies if I offend, but really lose the tie-dyes and pony tails, your in your sixties!) Again, not to bash Dylan (or old hippies  ), he has contributed greatly to the culture of music and inspired countless musicians but... I had to almost feel sad or sorry for him.  I get the impression that in his mind he is a god.  There are many aged musicians that have gotten better in their old age, Jonny Cash comes to mind, the American recordings series (thanks Rick Rubin) were brilliant.  The age in his voice in his last album was chilling, it was apparent the end was near.  Reminded me of my dad as he aged.  Sorry, off topic, the point is I think Dylan could have taken an entirely different path as he aged.  I think he's has put himself in a bubble and can't see what it really is.  Use your age as an advantage I say.  I can see why Dylan sheltered himself 40 years ago, but come on, get over it. I can almost understand him not wanting to get mobbed by fans now if that would even happen, but christ, give your supporting acts a nod.  Maybe even play a tune with them!   I'm sorry if I offend anyone but that just pisses me off.  RT, MMJ and Wilco pimping his shows and he won't even talk to them!  I know at least half of the crowd was there NOT to see Dylan but rather the "supporting bands". I better stop, I don't know why this bothers me so much, I don't think I knew it did.  I guess I'm just feel bad for Wilco, JT especially.  I'm sure Jeff would love to sit down and jam with Dylan.  Just the two alone in a room, that would be cool!  I'm done... for now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Like most truly great artists, Dylan always had an incredibly strong ego. There's a story about how he even put off some of his buddies in the early days in the folk scene in NYC...sitting around with Dave van Ronk and all those guys, and just looking at them all and saying, "Nobody's gonna do what I'm gonna do," or something like that. And he was right. He changed the face of music forever. Before Dylan, the Beatles were singing "She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah." It's pretty safe to say that the great run from Rubber Soul through Abbey Road would never have happened if not for Dylan's influence. Without Dylan: no Neil Young, no Joni Mitchell, and certainly no Uncle Tupelo or Wilco. He's one of the most important artistic figures of the 20th century, and he surely knows it. He may even feel he's the most important. But there may be another factor here, since you speak of your dad: generation gap. Dylan is old enough to be the father of most of the musicians on the bill. He'd be more likely to hang with Weir than Wilco, in my mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indy81 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Again, not to bash Dylan (or old hippies  ), he has contributed greatly to the culture of music and inspired countless musicians but... I had to almost feel sad or sorry for him.  I get the impression that in his mind he is a god.  There are many aged musicians that have gotten better in their old age, Jonny Cash comes to mind, the American recordings series (thanks Rick Rubin) were brilliant.  Didn't you mention in a previous post that you hadn't listened to any of Dylan's recent albums?  'Cause overall they're better than the Rubin/Cash albums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Three dollars and 63 cents Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 The Bridgeport show has been moved to the Webster Bank Arena. I'm really not happy that I'm now traveling from Pennsylvania for an arena show. If I didn't already have a few more days in New England planned around the show, I'd probably bag the trip. A guy on Wilco's Facebook page posted, "My wife said Dylan sounded like The Cookie Monster wearing pajamas doing rap songs."  That's hilarious! And with as much as he rearranges his songs anymore, Cookie Monster versions might not be so bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hinko Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Don't mean to diminish the impact Dylan has had on music or his talent.  You are right, No Dylan, no Wilco etc.  He is certainly a musical icon.  The generation gap could be a good thing. You'd think that a guy might want to visit with someone he inspired.  I know, I probably shouldn't have stirred all this up and I probably came across the wrong way.   Also correct is the fact that I haven't followed Dylan like I should have. I don't doubt his material is great, it always has been!  I was more worked up about the live performance and Dylan's quirky ways.  Again, Dylan is a man of great talent,  I've just never seen that come through in the live shows I've seen over the years.  Maybe I just haven't been to the right shows.  Anyway, maybe I should have kept it to myself.  There was just a weird vibe I got from this show and maybe I vented the wrong way, I tend to ramble!   Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Didn't bother me, I have been just as critical of Dylan as anyone else. Message boards are a pretty harmless and relatively anonymous way for all of us to vent/celebrate/critique/cheerlead/argue, etc., etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Interesting that Dylan doesn't want to spend his time meeting with the young whippersnappers like Wilco and MMJ - but will with one of his idols (and friend) Bobby Vee after or before the St. Paul show. Though he doesn't seem to enthused, here, either - I think Bob needs to lighten up.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dagwave Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 sweet pic. wonder if a collab would quiet all the noise? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
linclink Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Well now it looks like, thanks to tanking ticket prices & a logistical decision to miss Dylan & leave early the first night...I'm going to go to Clarkston, Michigan on Sunday 7/14 (tomorrow) & hope that I catch Wilco & Richard Thompson doing everything they've done- "California Stars", "That's Not The Issue", "Sloth" & "Calvary Cross" ("The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" may be too much to hope for again ), & whatever else.Then I've got my Toronto ticket for Monday July 15th,...and prices are really, really tanking for Darien Lake, so that'll be Thrusday July 18th & we'll wait out the continuing price drops...Then...maybe Hoboken on June 26th (it's general admission & prices will be dirt cheap by show time & I'm willing to miss Ryan Bingham to see how low they'll go) & I have a friend who may have an extra ticket for Jones Beach on June 27th she just spoke to me about...there's Camden, NJ the next night on the 28th, but I hate that venue as much as I hate Darien Lake, so it'll take a little to get me there...but...we...shall...see... 3 shows at least (& possible 6 if the Cosmic Winds blow my way)...It isn't quite last Summer's rapid fire glory of 135 min. long sets & east coast gig after east coast gig (with 10 gigs total over the year starting with Detroit in December of '11, & ending with Columbus, OH in August '12 after a wild break neck 9 show run- whilst still maintaining my full time acupuncture practice)...but I did spring for seeing the two Tweedy solo shows in Chicago, & with having seen the rain shortened set in Nelsonville, the two Solid Sound gigs, and now getting to see them twice with Richard Thompson on board...anything else after that (Darien for sure, & maybe the NYC/Philly area trio of Hoboken, Jones Beach, & Camden) is gravy, or frosting- pick your poison/metaphor...pretty sweet Spring/Summer this turned out to be after all, eh? And I thought it'd just be the Tweedy's, Solid Sound & then them off & sequestered away & recording...well here's to recording after the Summer fun is all done!! Thanks Wilco & Team Wilco!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold as Gasoline Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 linclink, I think you win the Wilco fan of the year award. Â Quite a summer schedule! Â I'm a little envious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'm impressed too! Damn, I thought I was hardcore for trekking 9 hours to Atlanta, but that is quite a run. You will have a great time at these shows, I'm sure. The one thing that is a bit hard to get used to is the "festival" atmosphere, meaning not everyone will be attentive during any given act, so there is a lot of chatter. Once I was able to ignore that, I had a blast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
linclink Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 linclink, I think you win the Wilco fan of the year award.  Quite a summer schedule!  I'm a little envious.I'm very Blessed & grateful to be able to do this. Up to about 4 years ago I'd been working class poor to impoverished most of my independent adult life...but no regrets, I was a pretty darn happy poor guy...Now I'm way in debt for my healing arts education & the loans have just started to be paid off (this month) in fact...but I make my own schedule, & am able to do things like this, pretty often, if always on the cheap (drive there & back, no overnights unless it's with friends, etc.)...I also never take a week off from my acupuncture practice, ever...might work M-Tu-Weds & cram all my patients into those three days, & then the next week work on Weds-Th-Fri (again cramming away) to give my self the feeling of vacation a few times a year, but I always maintain integrity of treatment for my clients & keep the pay rolling in for me...And actually, I gotta say there are folks who grace the pages here who whoop my Wilco lovin' butt, in spades & then some...living room concerts, more shows than I'm seein', & lest we forget the enigmatic ace reporter, all around good guy & downright living legend 'round these part...the one they call bböp !!! He brings a whole lot, as do many...so along with thanking Wilco & Team Wilco, I'd like to than the great Spirit here at Via Chicago... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smells like flowers Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Â Well now it looks like, thanks to tanking ticket prices...Forgive my naivete, but is that a thing that typically happens? The venue drops the price to fill empty seats? I'm always in such a rush to get good seats through pre-sale (for Wilco, anyway) that I never considered that tickets would get cheaper as the event got closer. Maybe that will work in my favor for the show at Merriweather Post Pavilion. One can only hope! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
linclink Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 I'm impressed too! Damn, I thought I was hardcore for trekking 9 hours to Atlanta, but that is quite a run. You will have a great time at these shows, I'm sure. The one thing that is a bit hard to get used to is the "festival" atmosphere, meaning not everyone will be attentive during any given act, so there is a lot of chatter. Once I was able to ignore that, I had a blast.No where I'm going is as far as Atlanta...9 hours beats me. Though I did go to Chicago (flew in & bussed home to save $) earlier in the year...everything else is managable ( Toronto is 3 hours, Darien a little over an hour, NYC area 4-5...Michigan is pushing it at 5-6 hours) & the Nelsonville thing also involved an extended trip to see my Father too...but...we'll see how many more shows I make it to...I'm thrilled about the two shows with Richard Thompson, like I said, after that all the Americanarama I do, or don't, make it to, is truly icing & amazing extra good fortune...Thanks for the tips too...just lots of road trippin' good fun...   Forgive my naivete, but is that a thing that typically happens? The venue drops the price to fill empty seats? I'm always in such a rush to get good seats through pre-sale (for Wilco, anyway) that I never considered that tickets would get cheaper as the event got closer. Maybe that will work in my favor for the show at Merriweather Post Pavilion. One can only hope!  No...it mean ticket brokers/scalpers have over-bought the show...and now they are facing eating all those costs or unloading what they can, as fast as they can, for whatever they can get...check stubhub.com, ebay.com & your local craigslist for tickets (Ticket Liquidators too- google that/them)... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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